Equipment Spotlight: What Bulk Transit Runs and Why
Released 09/30/2026
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Every truck on a Bulk and Spur Transit lot was chosen for a reason, and every trailer spec was debated before it was signed off on. In Episode 34 of Always Pneumatic, Never Static, host Marcus sits down with Brad DeWolf, Owner and Maintenance Director, and driver Daryl Robbins for a conversation that gets into the nuts and bolts of what Bulk actually runs out there and why those decisions get made the way they do. Truck manufacturers, trailer manufacturers, transmission choices, engine specs, drivetrain configurations, creature comforts that keep drivers on the road longer without burning out, and trailers built for specific pneumatic applications are all on the table. Brad makes the calls. Daryl lives with them every day. Getting both perspectives in the same conversation gives you something most equipment discussions never deliver. The real reasoning behind the spec sheet and the real world feedback from the seat that has to prove it out every single load. If you drive, maintain, or make decisions about commercial truck equipment this episode is essential listening. New episodes every Wednesday at podcast.bulktransit.com.
This week on Always Pneumatic, Never Static, host Marcus does something simple and overdue. He puts the person who decides what Bulk Transit buys in the same room as the person who has to drive it every day. Brad DeWolf, Owner and Maintenance Director, and driver Daryl Robbins join the show for a conversation that covers everything from truck selection and engine specs to transmission decisions, creature comforts, blower configurations, and trailers built for specific applications. The conversation went places Marcus did not plan for. By the time it was over, Brad had learned something about one of Daryl's regular loads that may directly influence how a future trailer gets speced out. That is the kind of thing that only happens when you put both sides of the equation in the same room.
Episode Highlights
Daryl is driving a 2023 Freightliner Cascadia with 361,000 miles and zero complaints: Daryl was an owner-operator for ten years before joining Bulk and has driven equipment of every shape and size across his career. His assessment of what Bulk put him in was direct and unqualified. Top notch. He described it as almost weird to get paid to drive something that nice and acknowledged that the equipment gets used hard and gets used a lot. That is the highest endorsement a maintenance director can hear from a driver with ten years of owner-operator experience.
The decision to buy a new truck starts years before the truck arrives: Brad explained that equipment decisions at Bulk and Spur involve all three owners and are informed by driver feedback collected throughout the year, downtime analysis by manufacturer and engine, spec changes that eliminate recurring problems, and fuel economy projections across the full lifespan of the vehicle. It is not a single conversation. It is a continuous process that starts the moment the previous fleet cycle ends.
Drivers are the guinea pigs and that is intentional: Brad confirmed that Bulk uses select drivers to test new equipment before making larger purchasing commitments. Feedback from those drivers directly influences what gets specced on the next order. Marcus noted that the trust flowing in both directions in that arrangement is significant. The driver trusts that their feedback will be heard. Ownership trusts that the driver is giving them accurate and useful information.
Switching to automatic transmissions cut rebuilds from eight per year to one: This was the number that stopped the conversation cold. During the manual transmission era Bulk was averaging two transmission rebuilds every three months. After switching to automatics that number dropped to one rebuild over a full twelve month period. Brad noted the caveat that some of those manual transmission rebuilds were driven by running ten-speed manual transmissions hauling 140,000 pounds across the New York Thruway, which those transmissions were not rated to handle. Double 53-foot van trailers hooked together to get across the Thruway into Yonkers before splitting and delivering into New York City. Year after year. The transmissions paid for it eventually.
The Cummins X15 is the workhorse but International is getting a serious look: Bulk and Spur is running approximately 90 percent Cummins X15 engines paired with Eaton and Allison transmissions. Brad described the X15 as phenomenal from an engine standpoint but expressed some dissatisfaction with the Eaton transmission performance lately. Testing with International's new engine and 14-speed transmission combination is showing fuel mileage numbers that Brad said will squash every other combination they have tested so far. New International trucks coming into the fleet this year will carry the International engine and transmission. That combination also requires a different blower configuration for product offloading which will be a change for drivers running those trucks.
Seven dollar diesel changes the math on everything: Brad walked through how fuel price swings directly affect equipment decisions. At seven dollars per gallon of diesel the difference between a truck getting 6.5 miles per gallon and a truck getting 7.5 miles per gallon is no longer a minor spec consideration. It is a significant annual cost difference across an entire fleet. Fuel economy has moved up the priority list accordingly and the International testing numbers are producing results that are difficult to ignore at current fuel prices.
Emission standards are changing the equipment landscape again: A new emission standard is coming next year and Brad is already evaluating how it will affect purchasing decisions. Volvo and Mack may get testing consideration depending on how manufacturers respond to the new standards. Brad described the cycle as manufacturers rotating from the top of the consideration list to the bottom and working their way back up again as their compliance solutions develop and mature.
Daryl's grain load information led to a live equipment conversation: This was the moment Marcus described as moving the needle. Daryl mentioned during the conversation that the grain he hauls sometimes gets heated up in transit and requires careful handling to prevent damage to the product. Brad heard that and stopped the conversation. He did not know the specifics of that particular load and the heating concern. He asked clarifying questions on the spot. Marcus pointed out afterward that trailer manufacturers build configurations with cooling systems specifically designed for temperature-sensitive dry bulk products. That information from one driver about one load to one customer may influence how a future trailer gets specced. That conversation happened because a podcast put both sides of the equation in the same room.
Creature comforts matter and Brad specs them in deliberately: Leather wrapped steering wheels on the Internationals, upgraded premium seats on every truck, and attention to the details drivers actually live with every day over hundreds of thousands of miles. Brad noted that a leather wrapped steering wheel upgrade was a driver-requested change that gets added to every International spec because the standard wheel deteriorates over time and ends up on drivers' hands. Small detail. Real impact.
The pre-trip is still the final word: After fifty minutes of discussing engines, transmissions, blowers, trailers, fuel mileage, and the complexities of fleet decision-making, Brad closed with the same two words that come up every time equipment and safety intersect on this show. The pre-trip. You can spec the perfect piece of equipment and make every right purchasing decision. Somebody still has to take care of that equipment every single day before they turn the key. That responsibility belongs to the driver and there is no engineering solution that replaces it.
From The Host
“There are a lot more fingerprints on a Bulk Transit truck than most people think. Ownership decides what to spend the money on. Maintenance figures out what is going to last. Operations need equipment versatile enough to cover all the freight. The customer may require a trailer built specifically for their application. And after all of that, somebody hands the keys to a driver. That is where every decision finally gets tested in the field. What I took away from today is the same thing Daryl said at the end. Bulk gives him the equipment he needs to make a living and provide for his family and he takes pride in taking care of it and getting the job done. That is the partnership between a driver and a fleet. And it was clear from everything Brad and Daryl said today that it runs in both directions. Big thanks to both of them for the time and the candor. This one was a great one.” — Marcus Bridges, Host
Transcript
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You know, a truck doesn't just start with a key. It starts with a decision. What engine, what
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transmission? What trailer? How much fuel will it burn? How much time will it spend in the shop? And
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after you've answered all of that. What does the driver who's actually going to live with the
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thing? Think about it. Because it bulk transit, some of those decisions are being made years before
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that truck ever has 300,000 miles on the odometer. And today we're putting both sides of that
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equation in the same room. Brad DeWolf is, of course, part of the ownership team. He's the
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director of maintenance, and he's one of the guys responsible for deciding what bulk buys. Daryl
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Robbins is the guy who has to drive it. And as it turns out, when you put those two perspectives
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together, everybody learns something. We got into why bolt quietly uses drivers as guinea pigs for
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new equipment. Why? One change took transmission rebuilds from roughly eight in a year down to one.
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How $7 diesel can suddenly change the math on what truck you buy. And somehow, right in the
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middle of the show, Daryl told Brad something about one of Bolt's regular loads that had him
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thinking about how a future trailer might be specked out. So today, we're popping the hood on
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bulk transit, not just to see what they run, but to find out why.
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This is always pneumatic, never static. Strap in.
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You are listening to always pneumatic, never static. The Totally Pressurized podcast, brought to
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you by Bulk Transit, where we keep the lines clear, the tanks empty, and the conversation anything but
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dry. Whether you're running powder pellets or anything in between. Pull up a seat, crack the
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windows, and let's hit it. How's it going out there? Bulk and spur. Welcome
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into another episode of Always Pneumatic, Never Static. Thank you so much for being here today. I
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am your host, Marcus, and as always, we appreciate every single one of you that clicked download or
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listen or whatever it was you clicked to get right here with me right now. Thank you all so
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much. It means a lot to us. Don't forget to go check out our website podcast.bulktransit.com.
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This website's very important for you right now because we are officially taking entries for our
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next giveaway drawing, and we will be announcing the prize here very shortly, like within the next
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couple few weeks at the absolute most and every quiz that you complete between now and then will
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count as a submission for our giveaway drawing. Now, the last time we did a giveaway drawing was
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right. Shortly after we launched the podcast, we gave away two really cool cooling vests and I
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love saying that they're cool cooling vests because not only will they keep you cool, but just
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the technology itself is really sweet. I just always thought that was such a cool idea. And
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actually, um, my dad has one of the heating vests for when he's out on his hunts. Uh, most notably
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those, uh, waterfowl hunts that take him out in the December and January months in the mountains in
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northeast Oregon. Uh, that thing is definitely a good piece of equipment to have if you're out in
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the cold. And, of course, uh, these grueling summer days in the Midwest and the South and every place
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else that you guys are hauling material. Um. Wow, that cooling vest could really help. Now, I can't
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tell you what the giveaway is because they haven't told me yet. See, one of the things about
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understanding the host of your podcast is knowing whether or not he has a tendency to flap his gums
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a little bit, you know, run his mouth. And, um, my producer Jessica understands that about me. And so
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therefore she keeps the prizes very close to the vest until we are 100% ready to tell you guys
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what it is, and I applaud her for that because I know myself well enough. You know, the
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self-awareness isn't off the charts here in Marcus Town, but it is high enough for me to know
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that I would probably ruin the surprise. So let's keep it a secret until we're ready to announce it.
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But just know that every single quiz that you turn in between now and when we give the prize
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away will count as a submission into our drawing. So make sure you're checking out the website,
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podcast.bulktransit.com and filling out those quizzes for each episode. Today's episode is
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a fun one. Um, maybe not fun in that we're not like building a playlist or anything like that. It's
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fun because it's another peek behind the curtain that maybe we don't always get so lucky to get. Uh,
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just because, you know, you got to ask the right questions to get this kind of information. And, uh,
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something actually pretty special happened today. I backed into asking the right question and we
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all learned something. So every now and then it happens. But today's episode is an equipment
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spotlight. Okay, we are looking at the equipment that bulk utilizes and the why behind it. As you
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heard in the cold open when we started putting this episode together, I honestly thought we were
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going to talk about trucks in the way that a lot of guys will talk about trucks, engines,
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transmissions, trailers, seats, sleepers, all of that stuff, the stuff you can actually put your hands
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on. And we do talk about that for sure. But what I didn't expect as much of was just how many
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decisions have to be made before a driver ever gets the keys, because bulk isn't just asking what
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makes a good truck. They're asking what's reliable, what's efficient, what's comfortable, what's going
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to hold up, what's going to work for the freight we're hauling, and what's it going to cost us over
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its entire lifespan? And then after ownership answers all of those questions, there's one more.
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Well, what are the drivers? Think about it. So we got both perspectives in the same conversation
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for a really fun chat here. Brad DeWolf joins us from ownership and maintenance. And Daryl
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Robbins joins us from behind the wheel. And we're going to find out exactly what happens between
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deciding what bulk needs and actually putting it to work. So without further ado, let's get our
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guests in here today and talk equipment.
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All right. Welcome back in here to always pneumatic, never static. Let's get our guests for
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today on the show so that we can start talking to them about all the great equipment that bulk
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utilizes. First joining us, we've got one of the ownership team in here. It's Mr. Brad DeWolf. Brad,
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thank you so much for joining us today. Uh, this is a big one for you, man. This is the equipment
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Spotlight episode. So we needed you here. and we really appreciate the time. No. No problem. It's I'm
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glad to be here. And we've also got a driver that says you're very familiar with him on the air.
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We've got Darryl Robbins joining us. Darryl, thank you so much for the time, my friend. Absolutely. No
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problem. Now, uh, Brad being, uh, quote unquote familiar with Darryl, is that positively annotated
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or negatively annotated from the maintenance director side of things? It's all good. You know,
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anytime they have to call me, they're having a bad day. Worse than me, usually. Good point there. Good
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point. Darryl. Any truth to that? I would prefer to not have to call him if I don't have to. Yeah,
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right. You guys don't want to talk, right? I get that, I get that. Yeah. I don't want to have to call
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him for stuff, like I said. I mean, it happens. And friendly settings. It's fine. Yeah. Right. In or
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football or something like that. Like if you guys are calling to discuss a good fishing hole or
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something, you'll take that call. Right, Brad? Absolutely. But I don't get many. I don't get many
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of those. But all right. I get plenty of the others, so I really don't have a whole lot of time for
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those. But then them are the better calls. Yes. Yeah. For sure, for sure. Well, Darryl, real quick before
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we kick this to Brad and start asking some questions about the why behind things, you and I
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were just kind of chopping it up before we started the the interview here, and you told me
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you used to be an owner operator. Uh, you did that for about ten years. You're familiar with
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equipment of all shapes and sizes. Um, in throughout your career. Let's get your your spot
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on assessment of the stuff that you're using right now. What do you like about your truck? What
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do you like about your trailer creature comforts, all of that. Just give us the top down view of how,
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uh, Darryl likes the equipment he's using. Well, I did get a new truck back in 2022.
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Uh, which I'm still driving. It's got 361,000 miles on it, and it's. I've never had any problems out of
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it, and it's still running strong, but I do, um, I, like I said, I run a lot of grain and stuff up to
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Cleveland and stuff, so the equipment and stuff that I've got is top notch, and it's some of the
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best equipment that we've got. And what make and model truck are you driving? Um, I've got a
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23, uh, Freightliner Cascadia. Okay. Now, was it kind of like Christmas in 2022 when you
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stepped into the new one? Uh, yeah. It was nice. I mean, not that there was anything wrong with the
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other trucks that I had. Um, yeah. It was just nice that they just handed me over an extremely
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expensive, uh, piece of equipment that I get to drive. And, you know, it's almost weird to say it. I
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get paid to to to do this job and stuff because, I mean, it's expensive equipment. It's really nice.
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And it gets used, sure. To, uh, to to its very end. It it gets
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used and stuff, and it gets used a lot. So. Absolutely. Well, uh, I'm glad to hear it. Uh, Brad, I
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want to kick it over to you and and just kind of start this conversation off, letting the drivers
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know when it comes time for both to buy a new truck or a bunch of new trucks. Um, who's getting
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the vote on what we're going with this year? Are you kind of always looking at the same models and
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trying to stay with the same manufacturer? Are you always looking for cost cutting measures or, you
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know, fuel economy, that type of stuff? What really goes into that decision, Brad, and who's getting
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the vote? Well, I mean, obviously the the three as three owners get a vote in the thing. Um, as
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far as input into the matter of, um, we pretty much take input all year long from our for the
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comments we receive from the drivers, mainly the ones in them all the time. Right. Um, then we look
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at then we have to look at, uh, the amount of downtime for, for what each manufacturer
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and engine, if it's got a different engine. And, uh, what causes us problems, and how can we solve
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those problems with future buys if we can change a spec or not, buy certain
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parts, manufacturers, whatever, and that'll that'll prevent us from having continuous
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problems. Then. Then we change a spec. So there is a lot that goes into it for sure. Yeah, it doesn't
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sound like a very light decision there, Brad. And that's a lot of feedback that you guys are
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getting. If you're if you're listening to what the drivers have to say, which that's how you keep
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them happy, right? Is keeping them in good equipment and listening to what they have to say.
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How many things that you guys are running right now, Brad, are sort of what you might consider.
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Driver suggested. Is there anything off the top of your head like that that you can think of that
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drivers came to you and requested something, and then down the road you were able to make it
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happen? I mean, yeah, I can think of, you know, just a couple things right off the the rep
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is I always, you know, upgrade the to a leather wrapped steering wheel in the international. They
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don't offer it in a Freightliner, but they in the international. So the steering wheels don't come
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apart and get all over your hands. Although I'm not sure if it's any better with the with the
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upgraded steering wheel. And then, I mean, our trucks get the premium seat that each
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manufacturer offers to, I mean, uh, for obviously their comfort and research says that
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they stay. They're less tired if they're more comfortable. Believe it or not. I can I can guess
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that, man. It's that being sitting in an uncomfortable seat for any matter of time. I mean,
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every one of us has been on a plane flying across the United States, and it seems like they keep
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making those seats narrower and narrower, and they sit up straighter and they don't lean back as far.
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And what happens when you get off that flight? You feel like you got hit by a truck because your
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body's just not comfortable. You're not able to, uh, sit in a position that keeps you from just
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gaining all this fatigue for whatever reason. Daryl I wonder when you hear that, uh, that
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you're always getting the top of the line premium seat just as a driver. How does that make you feel,
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man? Uh, the seats are great. Um, I've sat in the internationals before, too. Um, they are extremely
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nice. They've got a lot of options and stuff with the lumbar and the seat and everything, but, uh,
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I've got the Cascadia, though, and it's got a nice, uh, cushioned seat and everything, but my butt's
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been in that seat for quite some time, so I've. I've broken it down pretty good. So, but it's, it's
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still got good comfort to it and stuff but yeah. Yeah it it does it it does help out a lot. Um, like
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he did say it, it can an uncomfortable seat, an uncomfortable condition can make you get tired
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and and and wore out real quick and stuff. Which is why it's always good, you know, to if you're
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tired, pull it over and take a 30 minute nap or just take a break and get out and walk around and
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stuff. I've had to do it several times. I mean, especially with weather conditions and rain and
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especially snowy conditions and stuff. I've I've done it several times where I've stopped and
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stuff because that does puts you in an uncomfortable and sleepy condition sometimes and
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that's that becomes unsafe. Yeah, absolutely. Listen, I'm a huge advocate for the power nap, okay? I,
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you know, the job I do is nowhere near the job that you're out there doing, Darryl. But I'm not
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going to lie to you and tell you I won't score a power nap every now and then during a tough day.
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So I am I am a big advocate for that. And of course, always an advocate for everything that
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makes a driver safer out there. And that's great advice. Darryl. Um, Brad, I'm going to go back to you
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here. Uh, as far as the decisions you're making with the trucks, what are some of the biggest
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factors? I'm kind of looking for things like purchase price, fuel economy, maintenance cost, of
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course. Driver comfort. Are you looking at resale value? Reliability is obviously a big thing. Uh,
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which of these are kind of the priorities for you when you're selecting new trucks to buy bread.
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Yeah. So I think, you know, you nailed pretty much everything. I look at all that stuff, you know. Uh,
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fuel economy obviously is going to rank high on the list for any fleet. It's buying lots of trucks
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and reliability. So, you know, up front and cost. Nowadays, everyone says you gotta look at total
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cost of ownership, which is there's some truth to that. You know what I mean? Certain engines are a
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little more expensive to even do your preventive maintenance on, because filters are more expensive
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depending on whether they're, they're proprietary or whether they're made by aftermarket people or
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not. So there's definitely a there's like I said, there's a lot of factor into but fuel mileage,
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reliability, you know, and then obviously initial price, we feel like we can find
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somewhat of comfort with any manufacturer's trucks when we go to speaking out the interior. So
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I think trucks are kind of like cars these days. They're all nice. Right. All the cars are really
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nice cars even. You go buy a Kia or whatever. They have a beautiful LCD screen. They're just nice.
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They're nice vehicles and and trucks are no different. They're nice compared to what they used
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to be. They're nice. And so from that aspect, I think all manufacturers are decent, but it's a
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matter of, uh, you know, they all have their little quirks, but which ones can you deal with? And we
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try to figure that out and work through it. But and then, you know, everything's changing all the
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time. All the time changing. So we have to do some testing with certain, you know, we'll do just
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dabble with a few models of this. Few of these engines try to figure out what's going to work,
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what kind of fuel mileage you're going to, going to get with the new stuff, new technologies, and
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then try to make educated decisions if you can, which is hard sometimes. Yeah. Oh, I bet I and
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sometimes I feel like you're selling it short. There's probably hard just about every time, Brad,
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because you want to make sure that, uh, you know, this is a big decision. There's a lot of dollars
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involved, a lot of zeros in these prices. And so you don't want to make something that is going to
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upset all the drivers or upset the shop or the maintenance staff or anything like that. I totally
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understand that. Um, I wonder, do you have some guys out there that really like to be the guinea pigs,
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where the testing new models and stuff like that's concerned? Brad. Well, you know, you always
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have guys that want something different, you know what I mean? There's always a certain group of
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people that would like to have something that nobody else has or whatever. So I don't, I don't
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know. Um, sometimes we have them being guinea pigs and they don't even really know it. You know, we'll
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spec we'll spec a group of trucks for a certain piece of business and put them in and just act
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like, you know, this is what we got. Here you go. And then we're we're looking behind the scenes. But,
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you know, it's the same thing with trailers, too. You know, we have to spec our trailers to do,
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depending on what we're going to haul and, and how we're going to load it, how we're going to offload
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it. You know, they have to be specked. Yeah. According to according to the job. Right. Yeah. And
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if things are. Yeah. According to what we need to do. Yep. Right. Darryl, you were talking to me a
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little bit about that before we came on the air. Uh, you're you're hauling grain right now and have
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been for quite a while. Uh, can you talk to me a little bit? You were talking about the sort of the
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specifications that you have to offload under. Um, you know, this is a lower PSI offload. You've got
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sort of a fragile product here. Uh, talk to me a little bit about the unloading process and why
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you have to be careful with that. Yeah. The, uh, the grain and stuff. Yeah, it it is fragile and stuff.
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So these blowers, they get hot after they run for a while and stuff. But you can. Most places
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want us to try and offload between 4 to 5 psi into the silos and stuff, because every
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bend that this product hits. It does a little damage to it. It beats it up a little bit.
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And like I said, they grind this up now when they go to mash it together and stuff and everything.
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But if we offload too high of a pressure, we damage the product
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and there's a possibility that you can actually heat the product up and cook it, which basically
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destroys it to where they can't hardly use any of it, or it can be a complete loss. And you don't
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like the damaged people's product and stuff. And, um, we got certain settings and stuff on the
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trailer and stuff like I have to, uh, the blower is a certain setting, and then I try to keep it
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between five psi when I'm off loading. Some places allow us to have six, but it's a higher push
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through their silos and stuff. But if if it's a very delicate product and stuff and we, we can
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absolutely damage and tear it up if we don't offload it properly and stuff, so it normally
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takes anywhere from an hour and a half to two hours and 30 minutes to unload the
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products, depending upon how far the silos and stuff are away now. And they do come out and take
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samples before we offload, and they also get samples that we give them, um, that come out of the
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railcar. So they've got double samples and they check that stuff, and then they also check it
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while they're pulling it out and grinding it down and stuff. So that's why it's a very delicate and
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soft, slow unloading process that we have to use when we're handling that product. Sure. And don't
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mess it up because that's one less beer in my fridge. Daryl. So, uh, you know, absolutely. That's
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important stuff there. Now, uh, Brad, I the reason I wanted him to kind of explain that process to us
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a little bit is now I'm going to go to you and talk about sort of how you're going to spec a
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trailer out for, uh, this particular route. Is there is there a bunch of different stuff happening for
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this particular, uh, customer, or are these trailers that you can sort of use in other places if you
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need to? Talk to me a little bit about it. Oh my God, Marcus, you just opened up a can of worms
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because he just he just told me things I never knew we had heat issues with. Are you hauling
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barley or malt? It's. It's straight grain. Barley. Oh, yeah. We've got two row bought
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malt. Um, Euro malt and stuff. Pilsner and stuff? Yeah. Two rows. Two rows. Barley? Yeah. Barley is,
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you know, barley. Barley is fragile. Which I knew about that. I didn't know that it was heat
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sensitive. So. Yeah, normally on something that would be a heat sensitive delivery, we would
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either. Obviously we use low pressure to help keeping the heat down, but if it's that sensitive,
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we would spec a trailer with a cooler on it. Oh, okay. Because there is a there is a way to spec a
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trailer that has a cooler on the front of it that'll cool that air before it gets to the
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product. Okay, so that might be something you consider in the future then. That's. Yeah. Yeah.
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For sure. Well, I don't think the mall. I don't. I think we all different stuff. I don't know, I'm not
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the most knowledgeable guy about what they're hauling. So, you know, unless they tell me about
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this stuff, I don't know this stuff. You know what I mean? But I didn't realize it was heat sensitive.
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But for some reason, I'm believing the malts. Probably not as sensitive as the barley. Or maybe
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vice versa, I don't know. Okay, we also have wheat. We have wheat. Two that we also do during certain
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times for Sam Adams. But we also a part that I left out of there. I'm sorry to interrupt. Um,
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we also unload the front pocket first, so we get the product as far away once
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we're unloading it. And it's because that first pocket's the most sensitive one. So we unload
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everything there first to get it away. And then it kind of reduces each pocket after that from the
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heat from the blower and stuff. I've never actually had any problems burning a load up or
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anything like that, but it has happened before. And I mean, I've heard of issues before where if you
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too much psi creates more heat and then that heat will start to burn that product up
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and damage it because it's too much heat from the blower and it's thrust in the product faster
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through the line, which busts it up, it absolutely will destroy that wheat and that barley and stuff.
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Sure, we're unloading it. Sure. Well, I mean, it stands to reason why you guys know this equipment
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so well and you've worked with it so much. Like, these are things that this is all a part of, of
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good customer service, right? You want to get the product to them in a timely manner? Yes. But you
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also want them to be able to use that product in the fashion that they want to. And the type of
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care that you guys are taking here is, is indicative of great customer service. Now I am
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just a fly on the wall, but we did just I establish that I can open a can of worms if I try
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hard enough here. So, uh, apologies for that. No, it's all good. I mean.
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It's always the information that I need, you know, that I like to, in something we can talk about in
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the future as to really how sensitive it is and whether we would want to go that route. Right.
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Obviously, that that adds expense to any trailer, you know. Yeah. But if it saves us
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down the road and claims or, uh, you know, if we can unload faster, but the pressure
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thing is still going to damage the product, so that we're always going to have the pressure
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issue, whether regardless of the heat issue, we're going to have the pressure issue. Right? Right. Uh,
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what other types of specs, Brad, are you putting on to, uh, particular trailers for particular jobs? Is
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there anything off the top of your head that's just kind of unique or, uh, maybe sets it apart
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from just your standard pneumatic trailer that you might be able to sort of, uh, you know, plug and
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play in other places. Yeah. And I mean, we do a lot of we. So it seems like nothing we have a standard
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anymore, you know, for each customer. Like recently we bought 15, 16
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brand new flower trailers and spectrums specifically for the flour mill here in Columbus.
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We have, uh, PD car trailers that are made to be loaded from a
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pressurized railcar, and they have dust collectors on the back of them. Okay. So they're like a
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specialized piece of equipment as a dust collector, uh, kind of integrated with the trailer
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to where we can blow into the trailer and still not create a environmental issue. We
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vacuum trailers to where we can suck the product out of a railcar. Um, those two have a certain
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dust collector, but it's basically just filtering to make sure you're not shoving product out in
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the environment. So, uh, yeah, we we have we spec spec accordingly.
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It sounds like it, man. It sounds like it. Uh, I'm going to bring up, uh, another I. I won't call it a
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hot button issue. I feel like it was a hot button issue. More, uh, you know, this is about my fourth
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year doing podcasts for trucking fleets, and I feel like I hear about this less in these, uh,
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later years than I did in the earlier years. And that's talking about the transmission. Um, Daryl,
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you drive it an automatic or a manual right now? Uh, we only have automatics. I only have. Automatics.
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Yeah, yeah, we don't have any manuals anymore. Okay? And at least I don't. I don't know if we have any
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manuals that brand has anywhere else but our terminals. All automatics and stuff. I think the
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pretty much the whole fleet's going to automatics. I think 100%. Okay. Uh, Brad, is that a was that a
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training thing? Was that a fuel efficiency thing? Uh, what what's behind the decision for, uh,
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automatic transmissions these days? Uh. I mean, that's just the way the whole industry went. It's
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definitely a fuel mileage thing. The technology and the, you know, the they've come up with pairing
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the engines with the transmissions and they communicate with each other. And yeah, that's
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definitely a fuel mileage thing. And it's these the way the industry went. We have we now have
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several drivers that are automatic only you know. Right. They they don't have a license to drive a
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standard. So um, it's just, you know, I don't know if too many fleets out there buying a standard
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transmission anymore. Maybe, uh, owner operator here and there, but I think even most of them guys have
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converted over to automatics because, you know, everybody wanted to wanted to change gears and
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shift gears until they got an automatic and realize how much easier was. Right, right. Uh, no, you
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don't have these truck drivers walking around with wicked strong left legs anymore. Do you hit
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that clutch? Foot is atrophied a little bit more than, uh, than what you might see back in the 90s
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or something. But I wonder, Brad, you know, back when I was in high school, I had a couple of friends
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that were real gearheads. And, um, I remember the first time one of these guys, I think it was my
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sister's boyfriend, pulled his transmission out of his 1972 Chevy and put it on the tailgate and
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took it apart, and it was an automatic. And when he cracked that thing open, Brad, it looked like a
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human brain on the inside. And this was 1972 technology. Um, from a maintenance standpoint,
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how much, uh, how much more complicated or are they more complicated, these automatic transmissions to
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work on than the manual transmissions were? So that's the thing on our trucks
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there, we call them automatic transmissions, but they're really automated. Uh, they're they're
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virtually the exact same box as a standard shift transmission with the automated shifting
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mechanism. So it's really, uh, not much different now.
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Some of the newer ones are a little bit different than what we're used to, but there's still mainly
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everything we buy. Still mainly an automated transmission. Okay. Okay. Now, Darryl, uh,
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knowing that you were an owner operator back in the day, I have to assume you've probably had a
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manual transmission at your feet before. Uh, which do you prefer over the, uh, do you do you prefer
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the manual or do you prefer the automated? Yeah. I actually think my left leg still bigger than my
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right leg today, and I haven't been in I haven't had a manual since
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2017, but, yeah, I, I've never had an automatic, um, truck
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until I brand them started converting over to them. Yeah. This is the only place that I've ever
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had an automatic transmission, but, uh. No, it's it's actually a
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blessing. Um, we only had pen speeds when we had manuals here. We've actually got a 12 speed now
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with these automatics. Um, but it's a lot better when you're in deadlocked traffic, and you don't
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have to constantly push the clutch in and constantly just stop and go,
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stop and go. And and you wear that. You wear your leg out stuff. But a lot of people, especially old
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school truck drivers and stuff, they didn't use the clutch anyways. You know. They were just power
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shifting. I got. To stop. Well, no. The, the they were the the gear ratios were
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floated back then and stuff. So basically you were uh, first in reverse when you needed to use it and
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stuff. And I had over a million miles on my Kenworth that I had,
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and they took it apart and my clutch had hardly anywhere to it. And
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I was. Yeah. I don't use it. Wow. You don't. You don't use it with the manual of stuff that we had back
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then and stuff. Yeah. My clutch was in pristine condition, but no, it's nice, it's nice. It took a
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while to get used to. Now I get in a truck now, and if it's got a stick in the middle and a clutch,
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I'm like, what if I don't remember how to drive this? Yeah, I get that. I get that, Brad, you were
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gonna jump in there real quick. You had a comment for us? Yeah, I was just saying I had kind of a
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stat there as a company. We looked this up when we got to automatics, and we realized we
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weren't rebuilding transmissions at any type of clip that we used to. So we kind of did some
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research and we we were averaging about two rebuilds every three months. Wow. Back in the
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heyday of our manual transmission days. Huh. And, uh, we did one
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for an entire 12 month span after we went to automatics. Wow. So you took it from 24 a year down
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to one. That's amazing. Doing two every three months. Oh, two every three months. Sorry. So, yeah. I
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was doing eight. 8 to 1. I've never been good with math, Brad. I'm sorry, but I don't know. I don't
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think I've rebuilt like, two since then, so. I mean, this is several years now, so I don't I don't know
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what we went down to, but, um, there should be a little asterisk there because we had, um, prior to
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me spec and equipment. I want to throw that caveat out there, Marcus. But prior to Brad spec and
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equipment, they had ten speed manual transmissions hauling 140,000 pounds across the New York
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Thruway up there. Oh, wow. They are not rated to do so. So that was that was. Definitely
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some of our rebuilding. Okay I understand. And that's just that's a wear and tear thing with
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that type of traffic and and constantly having to shift. I assume that that's just you can't not get
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that transmission beat up if that's where you're taking the truck. Right? That's a. Lot. Well, actually,
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we only hauled it across the Thruway, so we'd hook the doubles up in New York. You're allowed to haul
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double 53 foot van trailers a lot across the Thruway only. And they have compounds where you
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have to. And then you have to split them up and then deliver them as individual loads. So we would
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haul doubles across the Thruway into Yonkers and drop them, drop one and then take them into New
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York City and deliver one. Then come back to Yonkers, grab the other one and take it into New
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York City and deliver it. So, so it was basically just to get across the Thruway, but the
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transmission just absolutely wasn't rated for that. Yeah. You know. And. It's year after year, it
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just took its toll. Sure, sure. That definitely that kind of wait will do it, man. We did it for years.
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That's crazy. Yeah. Double 50 threes. I mean, they don't do that out here in Oregon. You can get, uh,
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you know, the double doubles on the short guys, but there isn't anything that long. Out here on the
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road, I don't even know what I would do if I saw that pull up next to my full size truck. Uh, that's.
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What I was getting ready to. Say. Yeah, that's intimidating man. All right, well, I like it. We got
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transmission out of the way. We talked a little bit about that hot button issue. Now, let's talk
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about something that I feel like all truck drivers just enjoy talking about. And that is the
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powertrain. Brad. What engine are you are you running and buying right now? And what's the
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reason behind it is again, we talked about fuel efficiency, maintenance costs. I have to assume all
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that stuff goes into the decision behind the engine as well. But uh, kind of what's the standard
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right now for bulk and spur? Well, right now we are predominantly when I say predominantly, we're
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probably 90, 90%, not a little over 90%. Uh, commons is
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X15 engine with Eaton and dirt transmissions, obviously. And,
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you know, I don't know if you're familiar with all the mission standards we've gone through over the
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years here with the trucking industry, but every three years or every 3 to 5 years, we're we're
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we're making changes. So. Right. You're trying to evaluate things before they even get this group
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corrected. They're coming out with new stuff, you know. So, uh, reliability has been an issue lately,
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but not super happy with the enduring transmission. The ES 15 engine
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is phenomenal. However, we are doing, you know, I said we're always testing, so we are. We did do
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some testing, um, with some internationals, some the new international engine and their 14 speed
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transmission and that combination, it looks like from our testing that that
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combinations fuel mileage is going to really just squash everybody else that we've
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tested so far. So that's great. We have increased our purchases of the of the
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international package and the and the new internationals that come in this year. They'll
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have the international engine and transmission. And with that came a different blower that we've
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used. So that's going to be a little bit different for the guys. Uh, the product blower. So that we use
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to offload our, our trailers with um, we've used the same basically the same blower for years. And,
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and we've had to change that a little bit with these transmissions. So it'll be interesting to
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see how it works out. May do a little testing with, uh, Volvo Mac. I'm not sure which you
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know, that, you know, because next year is a whole new emission standard. So here it goes again. Right.
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Um, so we may test a Volvo. We may test another pack. Ah. Although they're kind of like at the
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bottom of the list right now. You know, they just rotate from the top to the bottom and then move
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their way back up. Sure, sure. Well, you're asking a guy from Oregon if he's familiar with emission
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standards. You know, California is only about five hours south of me, right? I, I don't have to deal
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with them, but I hear about them all the time, man. And I can't imagine, uh, the headache that that
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must provide a guy like you who's responsible, Brad, for not only getting the trucks that you
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need to get the job done, but staying within the lines of all that red tape. That's a puzzle. I mean,
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that sounds just as tough as a as a terminal manager or a driver manager or a dispatcher
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getting in at the beginning of the day and having the jigsaw puzzle just spread out across the
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table in front of them. Um, I imagine there's a little bit of frustration that comes along with
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trying to stay within all of these standards, Brad, and how much they change. And that's the thing. I
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would say it's hard to make an educated decision because they're changing faster than we can test
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stuff. Sure, sure. Yeah. By the time I get good data, because I'm not like a massive
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fleet, we have a lot of trucks, but in comparison to some of the big fleets out there. They they
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accumulate data way quicker than I do. Sure. Of course. So, yeah. By the time I can accumulate
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really good data. I mean, they're they're changing again. So yeah, it's like sometimes you feel like
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you're just throwing a dart at the wall and hoping for the best. Absolutely, Daryl. From the
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driver's standpoint, how important is it for you just in your day to day to know that you can rely
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on the engine that, uh, that Brad and the team has chosen for you to drive around with? I mean, you
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already said you like the equipment. I have to imagine that means your truck's not in the shop
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all the time. So how important is that to a driver that you've got a not only a powerful but
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reliable engine sitting underneath of you? Yeah, I tried to keep my truck out of the shop as much as
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possible. I like to keep it at only getting services and minor work done, um, as much as
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possible, but I was always a Cummings fan to begin with. I've. I've had pretty much every
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motor you can think of that's out there. Um, but I was actually happy when they went to just
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strictly Cummings Motors and stuff. They're good, reliable. And it is a strong motor.
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Mhm. And it, it's it specked out good. It gets the job done and and that's that's all that matters.
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It gets the job done and it and it keeps everything moving. Because if the truck ain't
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moving I'm not making money. They're not making money. And he's got equipment that's broke down.
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That has to be fixed. But I unluckily I haven't had any of those issues and I hope not to have
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any of those issues, knock on wood. But yeah. I, I. Have bought so like he was talking about with the
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internationals, I have driven the internationals twice. Um, you know, when I have my truck getting
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serviced and stuff and I would borrow the running of the load and stuff when we had a spare. They
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are really nice. He is right about that. They are really nice. It's a little bit different going
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from being in the the, you know, Freightliner and then going to that international stuff because
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the steering ratios and stuff. They're a little different stuff. So they're not. They're a little
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more they feel a little more loose to me because I'm used to having that international, which has a
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tighter steering feel to it and stuff. But it it's like a Cadillac. It's smooth and stuff. It's
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like you, I mean, you hit a bump on the road and it's just like it's not even there. But yes, the
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equipment's great. Um, the blowers and stuff they did up the blowers. They're bigger blowers than
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what we used to have and stuff. So that was another thing that I had to do. I had to, you know,
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mess with the RPMs and the stuff with the bigger blower and stuff with the product and stuff. You
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have to adjust it and stuff because the bigger blower was pushing past the product a little bit.
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So you had to kind of tweak with that and stuff. But the blowers are fantastic and
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the the motors are absolutely just I love things, like I said, I love coming to begin with and I've
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and I've always had them. I had one in my Kenworth and I've had, I think, yeah, every truck that I've
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had here except the Peterbilt that had the hat car and it that's the only motors that I've had
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since I've been back here. Yeah. They're just they're really nice, reliable motors and stuff and
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I just haven't had any issues. And it doesn't seem like we have a lot of issues and stuff with them.
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I mean, we have trucks that go down, they get used, the equipment gets used, it gets used hard, and
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they have a lot of hours and stuff on them and stuff. Stuff's gotta break, break down. It's just
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part of the industry. Yeah, it's just the way it is. But having a good a good maintenance team there
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to get you back up and out on the road ASAP is also key and I think Bolt's got that in spades.
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Absolutely. Those guys do everything that they possibly can to keep the trucks up and running.
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And the trailers and equipment we've got is I mean, as long as the, you know, equipment and stuff
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there and the parts to change everything and stuff are there. I mean, sometimes you got to wait
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for parts because they're on backorder or they've got to be made. You know, but no, other than that, I
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mean, our maintenance guys do everything they possibly can to keep us up and running. Like I
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said, if it's down Bradenton, we're not making money. We're not making money. Everybody wants to
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make money. You know? That's just the way it is you. Everything needs to be running to make money and
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stuff. But nah, everything that we got it, it runs good and and it's it's pristine
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and and they, they replace a lot of equipment stuff as much as possible and stuff. We've gotten
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lots of new trailers and we've gotten lots of new trucks and stuff to replace and everything. And
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it's been it's been pretty consistent since I've been working here with everything that they, you
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know, run in and out of here and stuff. Like Brad said, they're constantly sucking stuff left and
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right. And it's just every year something changes the emissions. I mean, and then supposedly they're
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getting rid of the DEP and stuff and eventually and stuff. So I mean, if it happens, it happens. If
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it doesn't, you know, then they just deal with it. Yeah, you're kind of just flowing down the river
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of change there. It sounds like. And by the way, I, I have to say, Daryl, I love the, the, uh, Cadillac
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analogy, uh, as, as a former detail boy at a, at a Chevy dealership when I was in high school, uh, we
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had a 32 valve Northstar Cadillac come in for some kind of maintenance, and I was the one that
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they let at 17 years old. Take that thing out the North Highway and open it up to make sure it was
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all still, uh, you know, not going to fall apart. I've never felt a vehicle float like that thing
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did. I mean, 65 miles an hour. It felt like I was just riding on a smooth lake. Uh, on the biggest
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boat you've ever seen. So great analogy there. Love to hear that those engines are working out. Uh,
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both the international and the Cummins. I love that, uh, I want to get to the creature comforts
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part of the job. This is also another part of of having good equipment, right. Keeping the driver's
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comfortable. We already talked about the seats and the leather wrapped steering wheels a little bit.
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Um, Daryl, are you in a day cab, or do you spend some nights out there on the road? Oh, no, I don't
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really stay out much. But yeah, there are times that I stay out. That's an outand back. It's just
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an all day out and back for me. But yeah, there's occasions I'll run stuff to Pennsylvania,
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Michigan. I've done a couple, um, Wisconsin and stuff. Um, but, you know, not
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not rarely, but it does happen. It, it if they ask me and they really need me to do it, then yeah, I
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will, but like it, like, right now I'm just really busy going back and forth to Cleveland, so that
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kind of ties me up. But if there's no money or anything to be loaded up there and they have
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other stuff come in, yeah, I, I do run. It so. Happens occasionally. You do have a sleeper berth in your,
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in your, uh, truck then. Yeah. We don't have a whole lot of day cabs um, up here. I think those are a
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bunch of. Those are primarily it, uh, spur down in Texas and stuff. We do have a couple here and
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there though, that I pass occasionally, but I think a majority of those are down south, if I'm correct.
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So what's your favorite part about how the trucks appointed from a creature comforts standpoint? Is
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it the seat which you you gave really high marks earlier? Is it the mattress? Do you like the
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storage? Uh, you know, entertainment. What is the part of the truck that you like the most? Uh, if
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you do have to stay out there. I'm pretty much comfortable in that truck. I mean, it's just got a
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standard mattress and stuff in it. Um, which is it's. It's okay. Yeah. I mean, the seat and stuff's.
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Everything's nice. I'm pretty comfortable in the whole truck myself, but I've been doing this since
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2005. It's pretty. I'm just used to living in that truck. I did it for ten years straight without, you
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know, I was home maybe four days a month. Wow. Stuff to see my family and stuff when I was doing that
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and and everything. So, I mean, I kind of just used to being in a truck for so long that it kind of
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just is accustomed. I just. I'm pretty. Just used to everything, but. Sure. Sure, I get. That. I mean, it's a
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full size. It is a full size sleeper and stuff. I mean, you can stand up and walk around and stuff,
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and it has everything you need in the back. I mean, if you want to add accessories and stuff, TVs,
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refrigerators and stuff at your expense, I mean, yeah, you've got an apartment back there and stuff.
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Yeah, you really do. Brad, how much thought goes into that part of spec ING these trucks out and
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making sure that the drivers, uh, especially the guys that are maybe spending a little bit more
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time out than Daryl, are comfortable out there on the road. You know, we're going back to that. All
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these trucks these days are nice. So, I mean, it's to the point now where they're
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for no more than what most of our guys spend on the road. They're very suitable to get the job
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done the way they are, whether it's a Freightliner or an international, the internationals are a
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little smaller inside, um, with whys and whatnot. The bunk, the actual beds. A
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little bit wider, but the actual space inside is a little smaller. Freightliner is a little larger
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inside, but both trucks are very they're very nice. Um, you know, sometimes they're a little overkill
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for what we do. A lot of times what we do, we probably could use day cabs a little more often.
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But the thing about it is, is, like Darryl says, is the day that, you know, tomorrow they don't have a
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malt load to Cleveland, and we need him to run to Wisconsin. And, you know, that's what we need a
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truck that can do both jobs, right? Right. Sometimes a day cab limits us, and then you can always get
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hotels and stuff. But that brings in a new a whole nother level of complication. So. Absolutely.
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Absolutely. And and that cost that comes with it. Uh, it seems like you'd rather have that be, uh, not
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a variable cost. Right? Because you can't ever predict what a hotel is going to cost every
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single night that a driver needs one, but adding the sleeper berth to the truck has kind of a flat
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cost with it, it's not going to go up or down, uh, before you make the purchase. Right? Brad. So this
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is kind of a way to keep a a lid on those numbers and not have them swell out of control. This is
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true. This is true. Although when guys are sleeping in the truck, generally when they're sleeping in
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our trucks, they still have the engines island and. Our. Fuel costs. It's it might be cheaper to get a
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hotel. Yeah. Especially these days. Yes. Yeah, absolutely. Daryl, uh, tell me that story. You just.
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You told me on the phone before we came on here about the picture that you took at the fuel pump
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the other day. Oh, no, I it I'm telling you right now, I literally cried
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inside. I cried for this guy in front of me because he wasn't an operator. He wasn't a company
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driver. And this was at the Love's at the 65.
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South of Columbus. It was under $7. North of Columbus. It was
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737 a gallon. This guy paid 684 at the pump.
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151 gallons. It was $1,126.56. I
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said I'm. Sorry. Go ahead. I took a picture of it because I didn't want anybody to say, I don't
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believe you. So I sent it and I posted it, and I'm like, this made me cry for the person in front of
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me because I used to be there. And that was it for 50 a gallon. And it was nowhere even half of
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that. And I was just like, I'm like, I'm glad I'm not paying for this stuff. But I
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really feel for Brad and them right now because this is just ridiculous. It's wild out there, man.
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Now, I don't have Brad on camera right now. But I kind of figure when you heard that number, Brad,
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you might have almost shaken your head off your shoulders there. Uh uh, how how is it feeling right
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now? I mean, the fuel cost is astronomical. What kind of pressure is that putting on you from an
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equipment standpoint? Um, and how much do you have to kind of move stuff around to accommodate for
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that? Brad. Well, obviously you try to limit any, any unnecessary movements around anywhere right now.
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Um, for if we don't have a load on our back, we don't want to really be going down the road. Um, as
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far as the equipment standpoint, obviously, you know, uh, it makes that fuel mileage even farther
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up the list of the determining factors of what we buy. Right. Um, if the international engine is
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really going to crush the Cummins engine by that far, uh. That's an easy decision.
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Yeah. So just make the decisions real easy, especially if you're not losing any kind of if
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you can do it without losing performance and reliability. You know, then you're real. Then were.
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You know, an easy decision to make. Right. For sure. For sure. And if you if you have to factor in okay,
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we're losing a little bit on performance or we're losing a little bit on reliability. Then when you
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try to factor in the total cost of ownership, again, you know what's going to be best for you.
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But, uh, when you're when you're winning the fuel mileage battle and you got $7 a gallon
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fuel, fuel mileage becomes really important. Yeah, it's a rock fight out there right now, and you
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guys are doing everything you can to win it. And, uh, in the face of of seeming like every decision
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is the wrong one for gas prices right now. Um, it just in, in the world. I mean, it's it's really
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crazy to see it happen, but, uh, before we get out of here, guys, I got one more really good one for
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you, Brad, because I know there's, you know, this podcast is made for drivers. We got drivers
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listening. Brad, once you've spent all the money buying inspecting the equipment. And we've already
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heard Daryl say something to this point of he likes to keep his truck in shipshape. He likes to
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keep it out of the shop. Only minor repairs, maintenance, things like that. What can a driver do,
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Brad, after you've spent the money buying inspecting the equipment to help get the maximum
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life out of it? I mean, we always appreciate the drivers that help that help keep the trucks clean
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and really, um, just go a little, just take that extra step to take care of the equipment that we
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put out there. And, I mean, some guys do better at it than others. And and we try to really
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appreciate the, the ones that do you know all you know Marcus, you know what I'm going to say.
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Pre-trip is number one thing right? Yes, sir. I knew we were going to get there sooner or later. Yeah,
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well I try. Not to make. It like. The thing I harp on the most, but I gotta go. There always. Always a
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good pre-trip and post trip and, uh, ride it up. Don't leave the next guy hanging.
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Type of thing. Especially with Tom. Especially when it comes to trailers. Right, Daryl? It's mandatory.
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You're right. Exactly. On the trailers I don't like. Well, that's your thing we have. You know, it's not
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like we're assigned to trailers. We use trailers. Other people use the same trailers and stuff. If
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something's broke, let them know so they can fix it. Don't leave it for the next guy to come in, and
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then he has to find it and then waste time out of his day after he's already started. We only get 14
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days, 16, you know, 14 hours. My bed in a day, 16 hours if we have to push it. But we have to
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take breaks to do that because it has to be a split sleep or birth reason and stuff. Yeah. You're
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you're just leaving something for another driver to find and stuff. So. Yeah. And and pre-trip is
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like I said, it's mandatory. You're supposed to do that. It's it just ruins your day and makes it
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worse. If you don't do that and then get something fixed as soon as possible. For sure. For sure. And
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let me just ask you, in short, Daryl, how much pride do you take in keeping that truck clean and
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looking nice and just, uh, feeling good about the condition of it? Um, I don't like a dirty truck. I
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mean, you're not going to keep these trucks clean. We do run out of lime factories and grain areas
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and stuff. You're not going to keep the inside of them completely clean. But you got to remember,
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also, you live inside that truck. Mhm. I mean, I don't like being dirty. I don't like
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having dirty stuff. I try to keep it as clean as possible and stuff. But you know, dust and stuff
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gets in the truck and gets on the dash and the clutches and stuff. I mean, you, you just clean them
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off and stuff and, you know, try not to, you know, create garbage and everything and stuff. Like I
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said, you, you do live in those trucks, but I mean, not everybody's like that. Like Brad said, not
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everybody. Not everybody. Yep. Yeah, I don't I don't do pets. I don't I try to keep the truck as
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clean as possible. Like I said, we run into that Aline plant stuff all the time. It's hard to keep
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that stuff out of there. It's very dusty, slimy and it's mushy and stuff. And that's another reason
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why I keep a little boot brush guard on my step and stuff. So I get in and out to try and minimize
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as much stuff as possible to get in and out of there, but. That's. A great idea. Impossible. It's
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absolutely impossible to keep it all out of there. And and everybody, everybody has the same issues
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that runs out of there all the time and everything. But I work out of there two, three days
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a week occasionally. Um, unless there's no mall to be ran or anything like that, and then I'll run
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out of there for a week at a time. It just, it just honestly depends how the freights going and, and
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and if it's there to be ran and stuff. So I mean I'm in and out of there all the time, but yeah, it
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just becomes a, uh, cleaning thing. Yeah. And I like to, I like to keep the outsides of the truck clean.
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I mean, they do pay for us to get the trucks worse at certain places. They have, you know, cleaning
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accounts at trucks and stuff. I mean, and they also we have access to do it at the shop with
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theirself with soap brushes and oppression spray and stuff. I mean, would they give us the resources
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to do it if we need to? Absolutely. And, you know, keeping a truck clean when you're going through
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those environments is all about baby steps, right? You clean a little bit here, you clean a little
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bit there. You stay on top of it. It's like doing the dishes. If you just put them in the dishwasher
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after you're done. It makes that final dinner clean up a little bit easier, man. And I love
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hearing that you got a boot brush on the step. That's a great idea. And I would be willing to bet
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some drivers are going to pick up a tip there. Just hearing you say that. Daryl, thanks for that.
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Fellas, I'm going to go ahead and let you go here. I really appreciate the time. I feel like this has
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been very insightful. We've learned a lot about the equipment that bulk runs today and spur as
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well. Final thoughts from you, Brad. Before we let you go, just on the equipment spectrum, anything we
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left on the table here, anything you want to say before we let you get back to it? I know you're a
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busy guy, and you've given us a lot of time today. We really appreciate it. Um. No problem. Um, I, uh, I
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really don't have a whole lot, um, like I said, that, you know, we our trailers, some of them are super
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old. We try to keep them maintained. The, you know, we try to keep some new stuff coming in to, like
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Darryl said, we bought a lot of new trailers over the years. So, um, you know, we just appreciate
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everybody doing the pre trips, trying to trying to do their part to help everything
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stay in good working condition. Yes, sir. You know, if you didn't say it, I was going to ask you if
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you had to boil it all the way down to two words, what would it be? You said it right there, Brad.
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Pre-trip right. Trip. Thanks, Brad. We always appreciate the time. Uh, Darryl Robbins, thank you
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so much for being here today, my friend. Final thoughts from you before we let you get back to
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it today. Oh, I'm good man. Everything. Everything is good here. I
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enjoy working for this company. Um, they help take care of me, and I try to take care of them as much
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as possible by making sure the equipment's up and running and, uh, getting their loads and stuff
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delivered and stuff. Like I said, if I'm not moving and delivering, they're not making money and I'm
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not making money, and and they help me take care of my family. So that's my number one biggest
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priority is to make sure that my family is taken care of. And they gave me the job and they
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gave me the responsibility and stuff to, uh, do all that stuff. And I appreciate everything that this
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company does for me. And, and, and it has given me and continues giving me great stuff. Brad and
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Daryl, we greatly appreciate the time. You guys take care. We'll get you back in here again in the
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future. Okay. All right, Marcus, appreciate you. Thanks, guys. We'll be right back.
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Huge thanks to Brad and Daryl for joining us on our Equipment Spotlight here today on Always
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pneumatic, never static. Um, I never know exactly where these conversations are going to go. And I
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think that's one of the coolest parts about my job in particular. And this podcast, uh, in
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particular. You know, I said it all up. I have a laundry list of questions that I want to ask
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these guys every single time we get some of them on the phone or with me in the virtual recording
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studio here. And I'll be honest with you, uh, that's one of the ones where I had a ton of questions
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and they all just hit the cutting room floor, because where the conversation took us was
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actually more valuable than me ripping it back to a bunch of predetermined questions that really, uh,
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weren't going to fit the bill there. Um, I love it when somebody or I shouldn't say somebody. I
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should say both guys were so comfortable in conversation with me that we can get to places
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where my question might not have gotten us to on its own. It's where they take the question and the
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way that they answer it. And you always hear me after I have somebody on. That's the first thing I
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say. Huge thanks. Big ups. Hats off. Round of applause for the people that joined me. Um, today
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is no different. Brad and Daryl did a phenomenal job. They didn't just answer the questions, they
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answered them with context and experience and really gave us a great look at how bulk, you know,
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approaches equipment here at Bulk and Spur. And, um, I think this is a really good episode. If you're
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thinking about maybe submitting an application for bulk. Well, you just heard it from the horse's
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mouth. You got a driver that's been doing this for a really long time, and he doesn't have a single
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bad thing to say about the equipment, not the maintenance, not how long it lasts, not the comfort,
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none of it. Daryl was into it. He liked it all. And you know what else I took away from that
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conversation is that there are a lot more fingerprints on a bulk transit truck than you
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might think. Um, ownership, of course, has to decide what to spend the money on. Maintenance has to
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figure out what's going to last. Operations has to have equipment versatile enough to cover all of
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the freight. The customer may require a trailer built specifically around the job that they need
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done. And after all that, somebody hands the keys to a driver. And that's where all these decisions
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finally get tested in the field. And I really liked what Darryl said at the end, because there's
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another side to that relationship to bulk gives him the equipment he needs to make a living and
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provide for his family, and he takes pride in taking care of said equipment, keeping it moving
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and getting the job done. That's the partnership between driver and fleet and after 50 minutes,
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talking. Engines. Transmissions. Blowers, trailers, fuel mileage, and $7 diesel. Brad
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still got us right back to the same two words that we hear a lot around here, and for good
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reason. The pre-trip because you can spend all the money in the world spending the perfect piece of
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equipment, but somebody still has to take care of that equipment. And we got there today. Man, what
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a great conversation. I love it when we can have people come in here and speak candidly. And I
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think that Daryl and Brad both did that for us today. And hey, we opened a can of worms right in
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the middle of it, man, if we can ever move the needle even one degree on this show, I'm really
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happy about it. Whether it's for the drivers that are on the show, the drivers that are listening to
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the show, any of the staff that are listening to the show ownership, and we found out that, hey,
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sometimes the grain that that Daryl's hauling might get heated up. They got to be really careful
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with it. Well, they have trailers or a spec of a trailer That would include kind of a cooling
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system for that. And hey, Brad needed that information. Like we actually we ticked the needle
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over. Maybe it was only a half a degree today, but we did move it just a little bit. And I got to
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thank Brad and Daryl for allowing that to happen here on Always pneumatic, never static. They
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don't have to do that. That can happen behind closed doors. But I think it's really cool and
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shows the trust in the drivers that ownership at Bulk and Spur have. Um, because that's just one
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driver talking about one load specifically to one place. And it was one of those things where Brad
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said, hey, hang on, that's important information. I need to know about that. And asked a few questions
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to clarify. Um, and who knows, maybe down the road, um, Daryl's going to be driving a trailer with a
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cooling system on it that will prevent that possible damage from happening to that particular
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product. I love it, man. I just eat that stuff up. NUM num num num num num num num num. I love it so
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much. Thank you all for being here today. Once again, big thanks to Brad DeWolf and Daryl
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Robbins for having that conversation with me. Uh, Brad's a super busy guy, and he gives a lot of
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time to this podcast, and I cannot thank him enough for it. I know he does that because the
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maintenance department is so busy and so bogged down that it's hard for them to break away and
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come and sit here for an hour with me. Heck, it's hard for Brad to break away and come and sit here
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for an hour, uh, with me. And also I want to call out Darryl. He moved his day around just to do
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this podcast. You guys don't ever have to do that for me. I will work around your schedule. Uh, but
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before I even had the chance to really get to work around Darryl's schedule, he had already
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switched it up for me. Uh, so hats off. Thank you from the bottom of my heart, Darryl, for doing that.
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Once again, I want you guys to know it's never something that will expect of you coming on this
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show. We want to make it work around your schedule so that you can do your job safely and completely
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to the standard that is expected here at Bulk and Spur. And then when you've got the time, maybe you
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can come chat with me. But we really appreciate what Daryl and Brad brought to the show today, and
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we'll be right back here next week, Wednesday, 5 a.m. local time for another hour of content from
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always pneumatic, never static. They keep getting better and we're going to keep that that momentum
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moving forward. We're on a gravy train with biscuit wheels with this podcast right now, and I
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just can't get enough of it. So we will see you next week. I've been Marcus, you've been awesome.
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Thank you for being here today. Be safe out there, Bulk and Spur, and we'll see you in a week.
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And that's all she blows for today's episode of Always Pneumatic, never Static. Your number one and
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probably only Pneumatic Trucking podcast, brought to you by Bulk Transit. Thanks for rolling with us
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today. Till next time, stay safe. Keep those lines clear and keep it pumping.