Roundtable with the Shop: Mechanics Talk Trucks & Repairs

Roundtable with the Shop: Mechanics Talk Trucks & Repairs
Released 05/27/2026
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Drivers and shop techs speak two different languages and Episode 16 of Always Pneumantic, Never Static is here to fix that. Host Marcus brings five members of Bulk Transit's shop team together for a roundtable that covers everything from what drivers should be watching for on their pre-trips to the repairs that cost the most when they get ignored for too long. Brad DeWolf, Owner and Maintenance Director, joins Jeff Horsley, Jeremy Hall, Junior Taylor, and Shawn Earlywine from the Plain City, Saginaw, and Foster terminals for a conversation that is equal parts practical and entertaining. Steer tires, drive tires, trailer maintenance, shop trends, and the kind of war stories that only come out when you get five mechanics in a room together with a live microphone. This is the episode every pro driver needs to hear because the best way to keep your truck on the road is to understand what keeps it off the road. And the best way to understand that is to ask the people turning the wrenches. New episodes every Wednesday at podcast.bulktransit.com.

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About This Episode

This week on Always Pneumatic, Never Static, host Marcus opens with a very happy heavenly birthday to Ron DeWolf, the man whose vision built Bulk and Spur Transit into what it is today. Then the episode turns to one of Marcus's favorite things to record. The roundtable with the shop. Five members of Bulk and Spur's maintenance team from three different terminals join the show for a conversation about what they see every day, what drivers can do to help, and what they have found in trucks that they still cannot fully explain. This is the episode every pro driver needs to hear and probably the most entertaining one yet.

Episode Highlights

A heavenly birthday to Ron DeWolf: Marcus opens the episode with a tribute to Ron DeWolf, the founder of Bulk and Spur Transit, whose birthday falls around the time this episode releases on May 28th. From everyone under the Bulk and Spur umbrella, thank you for the company you built and the opportunities you created for so many people.

The shop is hard to get: Brad DeWolf organized the whole thing and Marcus is quick to acknowledge it. These guys are not hard to get on a podcast because they are unwilling. They are hard to get because they are genuinely that busy. Jeff Horsley has been at the Plain City terminal for 37 years. Junior Taylor has been at Foster for 18. Getting an hour of their time is not a small thing and it shows.

What drivers can do to help, landing legs: Across all three terminals the number one preventable issue is bent or folded landing legs from drivers who do not check trailer height before hooking up or who forget to raise the legs before pulling out. Jeremy Hall from Saginaw described a driver who completely folded a full set of legs driving off the yard. Brad nearly threw out his neck nodding when it came up.

Stow your airlines: Jeremy also called out drivers leaving airlines on the catwalks in wet weather. Water in the air system is not a small problem. At Saginaw alone an ABS replacement from water damage runs around five hundred dollars. The fix is simple. Put the airlines away.

Tires are expensive and patience is free: Foster terminal's Shawn Earlywine and Junior Taylor flagged drivers not letting air ride trailers fully air up before moving. Dragging tires off a trailer because you were in a hurry costs seven hundred dollars for a drive tire and over six hundred for a steer. Junior's advice is simple. Take five minutes at the fuel stop to check your tires. It is better than sitting on the side of the road for four hours waiting for a service call.

Dome lids and the cement haulers: Brad recalled cement, fly ash, and lime haulers specifically to wipe the buildup off the top of their dome lid lips. Keeping that surface clean makes dome lid seals last significantly longer and prevents expensive leaks.

The attitude that fixes everything: Brad closed the preventable issues discussion with something that the whole shop agreed on. Ask yourself one question before you leave the yard. What can I do better that would make somebody else's day easier? His words were: the answer is always yes. There is always something. And if everyone across the company took that attitude the ripple effect would prevent more repairs than any policy ever could.

The craziest things ever found in a truck: Marcus kicked off the most entertaining segment of the episode by describing a 48 ounce industrial tub of Vaseline found in a door panel at another terminal. The shop guys did not disappoint with their own stories. Shawn found weeks worth of old lunches stacked on the seat and a half eaten bag of dog treats of unknown purpose. Junior found Playboys under a bunk with a Bible on top and something in the fuse panel that technically made it to air after some deliberation. Jeremy found what he described as an entire outdoor setup including a portable grill and a folding chair strapped behind the bunk.

Pre-trips are not optional: Every tech at every terminal comes back to the same thing. Slow down on the pre-trip. Check the obvious. Tires, lights, air hoses, landing legs. The things that cause service calls and breakdowns are almost always the things that a thorough pre-trip would have caught. Jeremy put it best. Do it enough times and it becomes muscle memory. Then you stop having to think about it.

Brad's final word on drivers: Brad was clear that this episode was never meant to be a gripe session. Bulk and Spur has drivers who go above and beyond what is asked of them every single day. The shop team knows it and appreciates it. The goal is simply to find the small things that make everybody's day a little better and reduce the time trucks spend off the road.

From The Host

“I have said it before and I will say it again. The shop guys are the offensive linemen of the trucking industry. Nobody sees what they do. Nobody calls to say thank you when the truck runs perfectly. But the moment something goes wrong they are the first call and they bend over backwards to get you back on the road. Brad said it best today. What they are doing out there is saving lives. A detached axle does not just affect the driver. It affects everyone sharing the road with that truck. So the next time you are doing your pre-trip and you are thinking about skipping the tire check or leaving the airlines on the catwalk, think about the five guys you heard from today. They are out there for you. The least we can do is make the small things a habit.” — Marcus Bridges, Host

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1 00:00:01,040 --> 00:00:06,400 Normally on these cold opens, I use the minute or so that I have to set up what we're going to talk 2 00:00:06,400 --> 00:00:12,879 about here on the podcast today, but today's cold open is a little bit different. Well, actually it's 3 00:00:12,880 --> 00:00:18,480 a lot different. It's a very special cold open that's very near and dear to all of us here, not 4 00:00:18,480 --> 00:00:25,319 only at always pneumatic, never static, but at bulk and spur at large. Uh, there's a man that is 5 00:00:25,320 --> 00:00:30,920 instrumental in this entire thing that we've all been given this opportunity to work for this 6 00:00:30,920 --> 00:00:37,440 great company in one capacity or another. Uh, and that man is Ron DeWolf. Of course. You guys, uh, if 7 00:00:37,440 --> 00:00:43,360 you didn't get to meet him, um, I know that those of you that did would tell so many great stories 8 00:00:43,360 --> 00:00:50,240 about the person, the leader that Ron DeWolf was. And on May 28th, which is around the 9 00:00:50,240 --> 00:00:56,000 time that this episode will release, we hear it always pneumatic, never static, and everyone at 10 00:00:56,000 --> 00:01:02,800 Bulk and Spur would like to wish Ron DeWolf A very happy heavenly birthday and say thank 11 00:01:02,800 --> 00:01:09,560 you for this fantastic company that you've built that we all get the opportunity to work for. Um, it 12 00:01:09,560 --> 00:01:16,000 is such a fantastic group of people, and it comes through every single time that we have 13 00:01:16,000 --> 00:01:21,800 employees for Bulk and Spur on this podcast, and you're going to see it again in the podcast 14 00:01:21,800 --> 00:01:26,679 episode that we are bringing you today. But this was a very important thing that we wanted to do 15 00:01:26,720 --> 00:01:33,120 here. So from everyone under the umbrella of Bulk and Spur, including us here at Always Pneumatic, 16 00:01:33,120 --> 00:01:39,760 never Static Ron happily happy Heavenly Birthday and thank you so much for all these opportunities. 17 00:01:42,360 --> 00:01:47,680 You are listening to. Always pneumatic, never static. The Totally Pressurized podcast brought to 18 00:01:47,680 --> 00:01:53,240 you by Bulk Transit, where we keep the lines clear, the tanks empty, and the conversation anything but 19 00:01:53,240 --> 00:01:58,120 dried. Whether you're running powder pellets or anything in between. Pull up a seat, crack the 20 00:01:58,120 --> 00:02:04,880 windows and let's hit it. How's it going out there? Balkan Spur. 21 00:02:04,920 --> 00:02:10,559 Welcome into always pneumatic and never Static. Thank you so much for being here for our episode 22 00:02:10,560 --> 00:02:16,919 this week. Uh, as always, we appreciate every single one of you that clicked download. Your listens are 23 00:02:16,920 --> 00:02:23,080 the reason that we do this. Uh, so we are committed to keeping you entertained and informed out there 24 00:02:23,080 --> 00:02:28,399 on the road as you deliver, uh, with those beautiful pneumatic trailers and that awesome 25 00:02:28,400 --> 00:02:34,640 equipment. Uh, and I do say that for a very poignant reason today. But first, let's get to some 26 00:02:34,640 --> 00:02:41,200 homework before I tell you why that reason is so poignant. Uh, podcast.bulktransit.com is the 27 00:02:41,200 --> 00:02:45,679 website. Now, I want to drive this point home to you guys today, because it's been a little while 28 00:02:45,679 --> 00:02:50,320 since I've heard from any of you. Uh, there is a link up on that website once again, 29 00:02:50,320 --> 00:02:57,289 podcast.bulktransit.com that will send an email directly to me. do directly. I don't know why 30 00:02:57,289 --> 00:03:02,850 I went ahead and just changed that word, but directly to me, it'll come right to my pocket. I 31 00:03:02,889 --> 00:03:08,769 carry my phone with me everywhere and that's where I check my email. So if you want to be on 32 00:03:08,770 --> 00:03:14,089 this show, if you want to come on and talk about something that you see every day, something that 33 00:03:14,089 --> 00:03:19,529 is a part of the job, I'm always open for suggestion. And you can ask some of your other 34 00:03:19,529 --> 00:03:25,689 drivers out there. Uh, we have turned multiple ideas that have been emailed to us into episodes 35 00:03:25,689 --> 00:03:32,529 already, and we will continue to do that. If you work for Bulk or Spur, uh, we want to talk to 36 00:03:32,570 --> 00:03:38,809 you if you want to talk to us. So please utilize that link on the website, which once again you got 37 00:03:38,810 --> 00:03:45,770 a book market podcast.bulktransit.com. Send me a message and we'll get you on the show. We will 38 00:03:45,770 --> 00:03:50,849 get your idea turned into an episode. Uh, it doesn't matter. Hey, you can just, uh, shoot me a 39 00:03:50,849 --> 00:03:55,209 message and ask me how my day is, too. I'll definitely start up a conversation with you via 40 00:03:55,249 --> 00:04:01,489 email. So make sure to head on over there. Bookmark the website because that's not only a place where 41 00:04:01,489 --> 00:04:06,889 you can get in touch with me. That is a place where you can go to find every single episode 42 00:04:06,890 --> 00:04:11,689 we've ever produced, all of the information about what we're talking about and who joined us on 43 00:04:11,729 --> 00:04:17,689 that episode. And on top of that, the quizzes that you can take that'll make sure that you're paying 44 00:04:17,690 --> 00:04:22,970 attention out here on the road. And of course, those quizzes are a conduit to win some prizes 45 00:04:22,970 --> 00:04:29,928 sometime later on in the year. Uh, we will tell you later on in the year, at a later episode, that, hey, 46 00:04:29,969 --> 00:04:36,249 make sure you take the quiz for this one, because that is your entry to get into our giveaway. And 47 00:04:36,250 --> 00:04:42,088 we've already given away two really great cooling vests. Uh, and I'm sure that those guys are putting 48 00:04:42,089 --> 00:04:48,409 those to use right now as the weather starts to get warmer here. So podcas.bulktransit.com 49 00:04:48,410 --> 00:04:53,608 is your website. Make sure to throw a bookmark on that thing and visit it once a week for a new 50 00:04:53,649 --> 00:04:59,929 hour plus of content from us here at Always Pneumatic Never Static. I really feel like we're 51 00:04:59,929 --> 00:05:06,009 developing a lot of momentum with this podcast right now, and today's interview segment is going 52 00:05:06,010 --> 00:05:12,890 to be proof of that. Um, this is one of the most special episodes to me, if I may be 53 00:05:12,890 --> 00:05:19,649 so self-indulgent. Uh, because this episode is one where we might get one of these a year and you'll 54 00:05:19,649 --> 00:05:26,009 hear that come through later on, uh, because of how busy these guys are. But today is our roundtable 55 00:05:26,010 --> 00:05:31,929 with the shop. I'm so excited. Applause party horns. 56 00:05:33,489 --> 00:05:38,328 Oh, that was the wrong button. But, uh, uh, that's my loser buzzer. I did not mean to play that. Uh, 57 00:05:38,329 --> 00:05:45,249 that's the price is right. Uh, you got it. Wrong button. It's near and 58 00:05:45,249 --> 00:05:49,089 dear to all of our hearts, right? We all spent a sick day at home in elementary school watching 59 00:05:49,089 --> 00:05:53,730 Bob Barker and The Price is Right, so I had to have that button, but excuse my oversize fingers 60 00:05:53,730 --> 00:06:00,049 from hitting it. It's all party horns and applause today because we get to talk to not one, not two, 61 00:06:00,089 --> 00:06:06,969 but five guys that are involved in the shop, uh, or the shops at large, I should say, in bulk 62 00:06:07,010 --> 00:06:13,048 and spur. And these episodes are not easy to get. Okay. And it's at no fault 63 00:06:13,049 --> 00:06:18,809 whatsoever to the guys in the shop. None of them. Because the reason they're so hard to get is 64 00:06:18,810 --> 00:06:25,689 because they are so busy and they work at such a high level that they just can't pull away for 65 00:06:25,690 --> 00:06:32,488 an hour just to wag their chin at me very often. And, uh, today we're very lucky to have five 66 00:06:32,529 --> 00:06:39,368 guys in here, including Brad DeWolf, kind of, uh, the leader of the pack here. And, uh, listen, I 67 00:06:39,369 --> 00:06:44,809 understand sometimes podcasting isn't the thing that you guys signed up to do here. So even when 68 00:06:44,810 --> 00:06:50,170 you're a little bit, uh, standoffish about coming on and you agree to do it, we greatly appreciated. 69 00:06:50,170 --> 00:06:55,890 And that's what we have here today. We've got guys that are busy. They're literally keeping you guys 70 00:06:55,890 --> 00:07:00,810 safe out there on the road. You drivers, and they're doing the best job that they can to keep 71 00:07:00,810 --> 00:07:05,209 the equipment up to date. We've had a lot of drivers on this show talk to us about how they 72 00:07:05,209 --> 00:07:10,170 love the equipment at bulk, and they love their job at bulk. Well, let me tell you something. After, 73 00:07:10,409 --> 00:07:16,249 uh, about four years of making podcasts for truck drivers and for trucking fleets, I can tell you 74 00:07:16,250 --> 00:07:21,489 that is not always par for the course across the industry. If drivers have a problem with the 75 00:07:21,489 --> 00:07:26,089 equipment, they are very vocal about it. And that's one of the reasons that we wanted to bring some 76 00:07:26,089 --> 00:07:32,729 people in here from the shop to talk to us about issues that they're seeing and how drivers can 77 00:07:32,730 --> 00:07:39,369 help prevent those. And also, uh, just how you can make everybody's day a little bit better. That's a 78 00:07:39,369 --> 00:07:44,769 theme that will come through in this interview, and I can't thank these guys enough. Had them for 79 00:07:44,769 --> 00:07:49,689 almost an hour, uh, which is really big when you think about the amount of work that they can get 80 00:07:49,690 --> 00:07:56,169 done on any given project in that amount of time. So without further ado, I want to welcome our shop 81 00:07:56,170 --> 00:08:00,969 guys in here. We've got guys from three different terminals today and we're going to cover a lot of 82 00:08:00,969 --> 00:08:05,249 info. So if you're a driver, you're listening to this right now and you're wondering, man, I wonder 83 00:08:05,249 --> 00:08:08,929 if there's anything I can be doing that would help the shop out, make their day a little bit 84 00:08:08,929 --> 00:08:13,489 better. This is your episode. Uh, these guys are going to give you a lot of really great 85 00:08:13,489 --> 00:08:17,929 information about the things that they see from their perspective. And as you might imagine, it's a 86 00:08:17,929 --> 00:08:23,450 lot different than your perspective out there on the road. So let's bring these guys in here and do 87 00:08:23,450 --> 00:08:26,449 our roundtable with the shop from Bulk and Spur. 88 00:08:35,009 --> 00:08:40,649 You know, one of my very favorite types of episodes to make when I'm making podcasts for 89 00:08:40,650 --> 00:08:46,900 trucking fleets is the episode when we finally get to talk to the shop. And that can be anybody 90 00:08:46,900 --> 00:08:52,179 from the shop now. Obviously we've already had Brad in here. Uh, just shortly. But, uh, this is 91 00:08:52,179 --> 00:08:57,099 something that we don't get to do that often because the shop is a very, very busy part of the 92 00:08:57,099 --> 00:09:03,700 business. But today we're very fortunate to have not one, not two, but five members, uh, 93 00:09:03,700 --> 00:09:08,859 covering three different terminals for bulk and Spur. And I'm very excited to welcome these guys 94 00:09:08,860 --> 00:09:14,819 in here today to talk shop with me quite literally. So let's welcome first in Brad DeWolf. 95 00:09:14,819 --> 00:09:18,899 Brad, thank you so much for being here today, my friend. You kind of organized this whole thing for 96 00:09:18,900 --> 00:09:24,099 me. And I greatly appreciate the effort, man, because you came through. Oh you're welcome Markus, 97 00:09:24,099 --> 00:09:29,500 I, I'm really trying to save me from having to talk so much. So I wanted to get as many people on 98 00:09:29,500 --> 00:09:35,979 the podcast as possible. Uh, so, you know, you originally said for. So I got at least five. You 99 00:09:35,979 --> 00:09:41,579 did, you did, man. And I really appreciate it. And I will also thank you for organizing, uh, the lunch 100 00:09:41,580 --> 00:09:45,819 that we got to have with the guys from the shop at the Plane City terminal when we were out there. 101 00:09:45,820 --> 00:09:51,299 I've referenced it multiple times on this podcast. Uh, we got all a bunch of people in the room. We 102 00:09:51,299 --> 00:09:56,899 all got filled up on some awesome barbecue, and it was one of the most entertaining hours that I 103 00:09:56,900 --> 00:10:02,539 spent at the Plane City terminal. So I'm really looking forward to this. Well, you know, unfiltered 104 00:10:02,539 --> 00:10:08,459 shop discussions can be pretty entertaining sometimes, but we'll try not to go there today on 105 00:10:08,460 --> 00:10:14,179 this podcast too much. We don't want to go over the line. All right, I hear you. Well, let's welcome 106 00:10:14,179 --> 00:10:19,099 some of these other guys in here. In fact, let's welcome them all in here. Uh, first off, joining us 107 00:10:19,099 --> 00:10:23,659 also out there at the plane city terminal, we got Jeff Horsley on the line. Jeff, thanks for being 108 00:10:23,659 --> 00:10:29,580 here. No problem. Now, Jeff, how long have you been working out there at the plane city terminal? 109 00:10:30,499 --> 00:10:37,459 Uh, about 37 years. Oh, only 37 years, huh? Yeah, well, welcome in, 110 00:10:37,460 --> 00:10:42,579 man. Uh, you told me when we were talking, you said, well, Brad's gonna probably make me do it, but, uh, 111 00:10:42,620 --> 00:10:47,699 we appreciate you being here, man. We really do. I promise I'll take it easy on you today. All right. 112 00:10:47,979 --> 00:10:54,939 I hope so. Thanks for being here, Jeff. Uh. No problem. Next up, let's welcome from the Saginaw 113 00:10:54,979 --> 00:11:01,020 terminal, Jeremy Hall. Jeremy, welcome, my friend. Thanks for being here. No problem. Now, Jeremy, how 114 00:11:01,020 --> 00:11:06,340 long have you been out there at the Saginaw terminal in the shop? I've been with the Saginaw 115 00:11:06,379 --> 00:11:13,379 terminal just a little over a year and a half now. And how do you like it out there? It has its 116 00:11:13,379 --> 00:11:18,779 ups and downs, but we make do with what we got. Yes, sir. Yes, sir. I think you just, uh, that you just 117 00:11:18,780 --> 00:11:24,739 personified every job that you can have. It's got its ups and downs. Uh, we understand that very well. 118 00:11:24,939 --> 00:11:30,539 Uh, thanks for being here, Jeremy. We appreciate the time. Uh, coming up next here, we've got a couple of 119 00:11:30,580 --> 00:11:35,299 guys from the foster terminal. Uh, let's welcome first Junior Taylor to the show. Junior, thank you 120 00:11:35,299 --> 00:11:41,739 for being here, my friend. And how long for you on board out there at the Foster Terminal 121 00:11:41,780 --> 00:11:48,619 Shop 18. 18 years. 18 years. Wow. We got a couple of 122 00:11:48,619 --> 00:11:53,379 long timers here with us so far today. I don't think anybody's probably going to beat Brad, but, 123 00:11:53,379 --> 00:11:58,819 uh, you know, 37 and 18 is a pretty good chunk, man. Uh, how do you like it out there at the foster 124 00:11:58,819 --> 00:12:05,098 terminal, junior? Uh. Great, man. It's, uh, it's a good place to work. 125 00:12:05,820 --> 00:12:11,739 Amen to that, man. Uh, thank you for being here, junior. Uh, next up, also from the foster terminal 126 00:12:11,740 --> 00:12:17,099 and our final guest today, we've got Shawn Earlywine on the show. Shawn, thanks for the time, man. How you 127 00:12:17,099 --> 00:12:23,780 doing out there? Hey, I'm good, man. That's it. Uh, okay. No, I say 128 00:12:23,820 --> 00:12:30,729 it's it's a privilege to work here. I've been here for be 16 years. August the 129 00:12:30,729 --> 00:12:37,659 23rd. That's wild. So just on the phone here, uh, not including Brad's time. We've 130 00:12:37,659 --> 00:12:43,580 got something like 30 plus years of experience. Uh, just with the guys that are outside of Brad and 131 00:12:43,580 --> 00:12:49,099 Brad. I'll ask you for your time, too. How long has it been since you first put on the shoes and went 132 00:12:49,099 --> 00:12:55,339 to work at Bulk and Spur for dad? Oh, well, I'm not going to date myself, but I was. I was not able to 133 00:12:55,340 --> 00:13:01,779 drive, and I didn't really know how to drive the mower that he had me running, so I was about 12. 134 00:13:03,420 --> 00:13:09,339 It's been close to 40, but actually. That's. Amazing. Just got more seniority in me because I quit and 135 00:13:09,340 --> 00:13:16,218 came back. So he just the longest tenured guy on this call. Okay, Jeff. Well, 136 00:13:16,219 --> 00:13:22,219 uh, do you ever do you ever flex that muscle over Brad? Jeff. Does he ever get lippy with you? No, I 137 00:13:22,219 --> 00:13:29,179 don't use it. No. Sure don't. Well, better man than I am. Better man than I am for sure. Fellas. 138 00:13:29,180 --> 00:13:33,779 Well, listen, I, I really appreciate your guys's time here. I want to jump right in, because one of 139 00:13:33,780 --> 00:13:38,179 the reasons we don't get to talk to the shop guys often, as I said, is because you guys are busy and 140 00:13:38,219 --> 00:13:43,299 rightfully so. Without you guys, this company doesn't move forward. We got to keep these trucks 141 00:13:43,299 --> 00:13:49,299 safe and on the road. So, uh, I'm gonna ask a question here and kind of go around the room and 142 00:13:49,299 --> 00:13:54,499 let you guys all give your take on it. And I think the first thing that I want to ask and, Brad, I'm 143 00:13:54,499 --> 00:13:59,820 going to start right off the top here with you, what is something that drivers probably don't 144 00:13:59,820 --> 00:14:04,780 realize about the shop side of the business from your perspective? Brad? 145 00:14:07,299 --> 00:14:13,978 Oh, well, I have to think about this one for a minute. Marcus. Um, I guess they don't, uh, they 146 00:14:13,979 --> 00:14:20,619 probably don't take into account. How much of a 147 00:14:20,619 --> 00:14:26,979 distraction it is sometimes for, uh, for you to walk up and and just start a 148 00:14:26,979 --> 00:14:32,179 conversation with a mechanic or asking to do even the smallest task. And the reason why I say that 149 00:14:32,180 --> 00:14:37,429 is because the mechanics are in the middle of the job, and what you don't want them to do is quit 150 00:14:37,429 --> 00:14:41,789 doing something when they're in the middle of it, because that then they forget, you know, you forget 151 00:14:41,789 --> 00:14:47,950 to tighten this up or talk that bold or check that, you know. So what I think the drivers, the 152 00:14:47,950 --> 00:14:53,950 biggest thing we want to make sure is we don't distract the mechanics from finishing important 153 00:14:53,950 --> 00:15:00,949 safety tasks before, uh, proceeding to help whatever their need 154 00:15:00,950 --> 00:15:06,829 is. I totally understand that. You know, I know you guys probably know this about me, but I'll. I'll 155 00:15:06,830 --> 00:15:12,270 give you a peek behind the curtain. I'm a bit chatty. Uh, and, boy, can I get distracted very 156 00:15:12,270 --> 00:15:18,150 easily. I imagine doing the things that the mechanics have to do, uh, is a very detail oriented 157 00:15:18,150 --> 00:15:21,989 job. And somebody coming up, tapping on your shoulder, asking you what you thought about the 158 00:15:21,989 --> 00:15:27,589 most recent college football game, uh, can be a real hindrance. Is what you're saying there, Brad? 159 00:15:27,630 --> 00:15:32,309 Or even if they come in and say, hey, I need a I need a wiper blade replace, which obviously that's 160 00:15:32,310 --> 00:15:37,230 something we want to run out and do right now. We're not going to make them wait for that, but 161 00:15:37,310 --> 00:15:42,389 just to. Just to make sure that they know to not just expect us to just drop everything right in 162 00:15:42,389 --> 00:15:47,710 the middle of it, run out there and do the wiper blade. We need to finish our task to where we're 163 00:15:47,710 --> 00:15:54,309 at a safe quitting point before we move to another task, and then we can come back and we'll 164 00:15:54,310 --> 00:16:00,949 be able to finish both jobs in a very safe manner. Great insight there. I love that answer. Jeff, we're 165 00:16:00,949 --> 00:16:05,390 going to you next. With all that experience, what would you say is something drivers might not 166 00:16:05,390 --> 00:16:12,389 understand about the shop side of things? I'd say Brad hit it pretty good. You know, I mean, 167 00:16:12,389 --> 00:16:18,669 sometimes we just can't stop and just run straight out. Absolutely. You know, we got to go 168 00:16:18,669 --> 00:16:24,949 through the channels. You know, we gotta, you know, instead of stopping what we're doing. So. 169 00:16:25,389 --> 00:16:31,829 And out and we work on everybody's stuff too, you know. So we sometimes we get busy. 170 00:16:31,989 --> 00:16:38,749 Absolutely. And I can imagine it's easy for a driver to, uh, sort of be focused in on, on their 171 00:16:38,750 --> 00:16:45,149 own truck and keeping that thing safe. And it's sort of hard to understand that, hey, we've got a 172 00:16:45,150 --> 00:16:50,149 lot of trucks that are coming through here. So sometimes it's probably it's not intentionally 173 00:16:50,190 --> 00:16:54,309 kind of, uh, self-centered, but it's like they have to be self-centered. They want to keep their 174 00:16:54,309 --> 00:16:59,188 trucks safe, so they're worried about it at the top of their priority list all the time. But you 175 00:16:59,189 --> 00:17:05,670 guys have, right, just a litany of priorities to get to, right? Well, they always say it only takes a 176 00:17:05,670 --> 00:17:12,229 minute. An hour later, you're still working on it. I get that, man, I get that. That's why my mechanic 177 00:17:12,229 --> 00:17:17,550 bills so high on my Silverado. Every time he tells me three hours, it's six. But I think you guys are 178 00:17:17,550 --> 00:17:24,110 better mechanics than they are for sure, so. Well, uh, that's. That's Marcus says as they ask for a 179 00:17:24,110 --> 00:17:29,589 wiper blade. And then once you get out there on their truck, they need this. That's an overhaul as 180 00:17:29,589 --> 00:17:36,470 well. You know, the the list keeps growing. Yeah, right. It goes from a from a wiper blade to the 181 00:17:36,470 --> 00:17:42,550 top half of the engine needs to be replaced. Right. Sometime. Yeah. And that's only because we haven't 182 00:17:42,550 --> 00:17:48,269 looked at the bottom half of the engine yet, so. No. Uh, look, our trucks here are maintained very well, 183 00:17:48,269 --> 00:17:53,348 and that's one of the reasons we wanted to get on with you guys. All jokes aside. Uh, you guys run a 184 00:17:53,349 --> 00:17:58,708 really tight ship out there, and the drivers, uh, they comment on it when I'm talking to them. Uh, 185 00:17:58,709 --> 00:18:03,269 they're very happy with the way the trucks are maintained. They love the equipment. Uh, trailers as 186 00:18:03,270 --> 00:18:08,709 well. Um, let's go to Jeremy here for the answer to the same question. Jeremy, from your perspective 187 00:18:08,749 --> 00:18:13,469 out there in Saginaw. Uh, what's something you think the drivers might not fully realize about 188 00:18:13,470 --> 00:18:20,429 the shop side? Uh, honestly, the biggest thing is that 189 00:18:20,430 --> 00:18:26,949 they don't realize that not everything's going to happen, like, right then and there. Like, for 190 00:18:26,949 --> 00:18:33,270 instance, if they're having an AC problem or if they're having an exhaust leak, you know, 191 00:18:33,949 --> 00:18:39,429 it could be something that's a bigger job that's going to take more than, you know, an hour or two 192 00:18:39,430 --> 00:18:46,389 hours. Especially, you know, being here in Saginaw where we have to do everything pretty 193 00:18:46,389 --> 00:18:53,349 much either we have to have an outside vendor come and help, or if I've got to order a 194 00:18:53,349 --> 00:19:00,229 part and the lead time is, you know, a day or two and they just feel like it has to be done, 195 00:19:00,229 --> 00:19:05,509 like right then and there. And sometimes it's trying to get them to understand that it's not 196 00:19:05,509 --> 00:19:09,909 always going to be right then and there. Then it's just trying to get them to understand it and be 197 00:19:09,910 --> 00:19:16,550 calm about it. Sure. Now, is that something that's sort of unique to the Saginaw terminal, or is that 198 00:19:16,589 --> 00:19:21,989 is that more than just the Saginaw terminal? Does that apply to all of them? And maybe Jeremy, you 199 00:19:21,989 --> 00:19:27,949 could comment too. But Brad, I'll come to you on this after. Oh, oh go ahead. I think it's just 200 00:19:27,949 --> 00:19:34,910 something across the industry as a general idea is that sometimes, like, for instance, 201 00:19:34,910 --> 00:19:41,869 if a a truck loses a driveline, you know, they may be out of that truck for, you know, 202 00:19:41,910 --> 00:19:47,670 a week, maybe more, depending on how much damage was done. And then they keep coming back to you 203 00:19:47,670 --> 00:19:51,189 everyday when my truck is going to be done with my truck going to be done, you have to explain to 204 00:19:51,189 --> 00:19:57,269 them it's at the shop. This is the update. Once I have something new then I'll tell you. 205 00:19:58,030 --> 00:20:03,430 Copy, Brad, your thoughts there? Yeah. I mean, he nailed it. What what? I mean it and we all do it. I 206 00:20:03,430 --> 00:20:07,068 mean, we do it with our own cars, right? When you have a problem with your car and you take it to 207 00:20:07,069 --> 00:20:11,790 the dealership and you're like, why is it taking so long? My truck's at the dealer right now. I'm 208 00:20:11,790 --> 00:20:15,670 waiting on them to call and tell me when it's going to be fixed. You know what I mean? I want to 209 00:20:15,670 --> 00:20:20,229 call them up and say, where's my truck going to be done? But I do this job every day, so I don't call 210 00:20:20,229 --> 00:20:26,269 them. I just wait for them to call me. But that, I mean, he nailed it. Um, it just looks easy, you know? 211 00:20:26,310 --> 00:20:33,199 Everything looks easy, but. Yeah. And in Jeremy's case, where he is dealing with mainly outside 212 00:20:33,199 --> 00:20:38,639 repair facility. So Jeremy is more of a maintenance coordinator, more than a direct hands 213 00:20:38,680 --> 00:20:43,599 on mechanic, even though he does some work. He does some of that too. But, uh, he does a lot more 214 00:20:43,599 --> 00:20:50,520 coordinating than he does mechanical stuff, I would say. And so he got the he's at the mercy of 215 00:20:50,520 --> 00:20:57,318 all the outside vendors, uh, repair facilities. And they're parks people, right? So he doesn't always. 216 00:20:57,359 --> 00:21:02,358 He's not always in charge of getting the park sometimes that he's relying on them to do that. So, 217 00:21:02,840 --> 00:21:09,759 um, we have a little more control when our own shops when it comes to parks and scheduling. But a 218 00:21:09,760 --> 00:21:14,519 job still take time. You know what I mean? Just because we have a truck that's broke and a 219 00:21:14,520 --> 00:21:20,799 mechanic that's there doesn't fix it, you got to still put the four hours in to do the whatever 220 00:21:20,800 --> 00:21:26,159 the job is and to put it out there, put out, you know, we want to put out a product that it that 221 00:21:26,199 --> 00:21:31,800 that drivers don't have to come back. You know that's our goal. Sure. It's always absolutely. It's 222 00:21:31,800 --> 00:21:37,919 impossible to attain that 100%. You know what I mean? But it's our goal. When we send a truck out 223 00:21:37,920 --> 00:21:43,199 of here that doesn't have to come back. I mean, that's our goal. Jeremy, you were going to jump in 224 00:21:43,239 --> 00:21:50,079 there. Yeah, I was going to say, you know, like this morning before I got on my phone call with 225 00:21:50,080 --> 00:21:56,159 you, I was over at our vendor's shop putting a warranty, landing leg on this morning, just trying 226 00:21:56,160 --> 00:22:02,719 to make sure that it got done. And then we didn't have to pay so much on the bill. So 227 00:22:03,000 --> 00:22:08,519 there's something there are things that I can do, like simple stuff, but then like the bigger stuff. 228 00:22:08,839 --> 00:22:15,639 Brad's right. Because we did. We send it out to our vendor and I do try to coordinate. And that's one 229 00:22:15,640 --> 00:22:21,759 of my biggest things about here being in Saginaw, even the Sherman office is just trying to make 230 00:22:21,800 --> 00:22:28,479 sure we coordinate everything. So I don't have, you know, three trailers in the shop at one time. 231 00:22:28,680 --> 00:22:34,480 Right. It's kind of, uh, it's kind of a, uh, just a, a numbers game there. You're trying to play all the 232 00:22:34,480 --> 00:22:40,519 time, and and the numbers are, uh, always fighting you to try to add up, aren't they? Right. They 233 00:22:40,519 --> 00:22:47,359 always. If I don't let them add up, then I know I can expect a phone call from Brad. Yes, sir. Yes, sir. 234 00:22:47,600 --> 00:22:52,560 All right, well, that's great insight there. Uh, a little bit of, uh, of a unique situation at the 235 00:22:52,560 --> 00:22:57,479 Saginaw terminal. Makes me curious about the foster terminal. So let's bring in Junior Taylor 236 00:22:57,479 --> 00:23:01,959 here real quick. Junior, what's something drivers probably don't realize about the shop side of 237 00:23:01,959 --> 00:23:07,640 things? From your perspective, my friend? Uh, pretty much same thing. What they said. And, uh, 238 00:23:09,199 --> 00:23:15,119 they expect stuff to be done right then. Never. You know, it doesn't always work that way. 239 00:23:15,880 --> 00:23:22,119 So, I mean, we got spare trucks, put em in. Never really give em like you try to get it done as 240 00:23:22,119 --> 00:23:28,240 soon as possible, but it doesn't always work out that way for sure. Shawn. And for the most part, 241 00:23:28,280 --> 00:23:32,599 they're pretty good. Okay. All right. Shawn, anything to add there since you're out there at foster as 242 00:23:32,600 --> 00:23:38,959 well? Um, yeah. I mean, I was just going to kind of piggyback off of the other guys. I mean, the 243 00:23:39,920 --> 00:23:46,800 the one small thing always turns into three things or five or, I mean, and and they don't 244 00:23:46,800 --> 00:23:53,359 seem to have a lot of patience. You know, they, they, they want their stuff done and then they want it 245 00:23:53,359 --> 00:23:58,519 done in a timely manner. And most of the time we can get it done in that timely manner. But there's 246 00:23:58,520 --> 00:24:03,759 always that issue that comes along that we have to take them from their truck or take their 247 00:24:03,760 --> 00:24:09,639 trailer from them. And, and, you know, in a perfect world, everyone keeps their own truck and their 248 00:24:09,640 --> 00:24:16,598 own trailer. But but this world ain't perfect. This world. Isn't perfect. We try the best that 249 00:24:16,599 --> 00:24:22,399 we can, you know. And then. Yeah, for the most part, they just. They don't have a lot of patience. You 250 00:24:22,400 --> 00:24:29,400 know. I hear, man. And they do like to talk. Well, yeah, of course they do. That's why we got them 251 00:24:29,400 --> 00:24:35,799 a podcast, right. They do like. Yes, they I mean they these guys will follow you around the shop and 252 00:24:35,800 --> 00:24:41,079 everything just to try to have a full on conversation with you. Oh, it's. The wrong mouth. 253 00:24:41,119 --> 00:24:47,958 Though. Yeah. Well, it's lonely out there on the road, fellas. Right. John's the peacemaker. Yes, 254 00:24:48,160 --> 00:24:54,439 I'm the one that runs them off. Okay, listen to everything everyone has to say. We we got enough 255 00:24:54,439 --> 00:25:01,400 time with each other. We know each other, what we need and. And and all the drivers. The fence here, 256 00:25:01,479 --> 00:25:07,880 everybody's impatient. They they want to get there. Everyone go. Home. Yeah, we. Know they only they want. 257 00:25:08,040 --> 00:25:14,759 Like. 30. So, uh, we understand, we understand. But it doesn't make it doesn't make it any 258 00:25:14,759 --> 00:25:20,999 easier. So. But we totally understand it and and everyone's that way. Um, so for sure. 259 00:25:21,439 --> 00:25:25,920 Junior. Go ahead. You were. You were getting in there underneath Brad, and he kind of the the way 260 00:25:25,959 --> 00:25:30,639 our recording works is he's going to kind of, uh, jump on you guys here. So I'll make sure and come 261 00:25:30,639 --> 00:25:35,519 back to you if I hear you jumping in, but please go ahead. Yeah, yeah. You need to stop him from 262 00:25:35,520 --> 00:25:41,519 doing that. I'll tell you what. I'll put that on. I'm going to put that on Jeff today since Jeff 263 00:25:41,560 --> 00:25:48,479 out, out seniority is him okay. Yeah. You'd be nice. Yeah, man. Yeah. Like if they come in just for like 264 00:25:48,480 --> 00:25:54,239 a break or something like that. Why? Why it's in here. You want to look over other stuff too. But, I 265 00:25:54,240 --> 00:26:00,920 mean, it's hard to catch these guys. Sure. They're rolling, you know, they're they're gone most of the 266 00:26:00,920 --> 00:26:05,359 time. So when you can, even if you got to go out to, like, the fuel pump and look at their trailers or 267 00:26:05,360 --> 00:26:12,319 trucks whenever you get a chance, just look them over. Yes, sir. Now, uh, this that first 268 00:26:12,319 --> 00:26:16,598 of all and foremost, that's great insight. I think the drivers can really learn something from all 269 00:26:16,599 --> 00:26:21,329 of these questions that we've gotten. You guys just went through a bevy of things that. That you 270 00:26:21,329 --> 00:26:26,489 see every single day, that maybe the drivers don't have the best frame of reference for. And that's 271 00:26:26,489 --> 00:26:32,049 why we're here today. Um, this next one is very much the same. And, Brad, I think this is going to 272 00:26:32,050 --> 00:26:36,809 be your favorite question that I ask all day. So I'm going to start here with you. What are the 273 00:26:36,810 --> 00:26:43,448 most common preventable issues rolling into the shop right now? Uh, something that you guys are 274 00:26:43,449 --> 00:26:49,689 seeing a ton of that maybe the drivers can help out with preventing or at least understand better 275 00:26:49,689 --> 00:26:55,410 why these things are going down. What are you seeing? Well, 100%. I think this will 276 00:26:56,130 --> 00:27:02,688 foster maybe the one exception, because they don't drop and hook as much as most of our terminals, 277 00:27:02,849 --> 00:27:09,489 but it's definitely the most preventable. Damages that we see 278 00:27:09,569 --> 00:27:16,489 are mainly due to coupling and decoupling. Trailers, loaded trailers. So we do a lot of 279 00:27:16,490 --> 00:27:22,889 landing legs that are bent. And we do a lot of, uh, um, fifth wheel cushion 280 00:27:22,890 --> 00:27:29,769 rings. Um, we also if it gets really egregious, 281 00:27:29,769 --> 00:27:36,729 then we have to put a rear crossmember in the truck. Oh, um, all these are preventable because we 282 00:27:36,890 --> 00:27:43,329 we spec in our all our all of our tractors, all of our equipment has a suspension dump valve. 283 00:27:43,729 --> 00:27:49,130 And if they would just take a little bit more time, be a little more patient, and properly use 284 00:27:49,130 --> 00:27:56,129 the dump valve. Uh, we prevent most landing gear problems and 285 00:27:56,129 --> 00:28:02,770 all cushion ring problems. Okay. That's. I mean, very straightforward there. Jeff. I'm coming to you 286 00:28:02,810 --> 00:28:09,009 next, man. Uh, same thing, something different. Uh, obviously Brad's got a really good eye on it, but, 287 00:28:09,009 --> 00:28:14,769 uh, what are you seeing? No, that's our biggest problem, right? There is a cushion ring and stuff 288 00:28:14,769 --> 00:28:21,329 like that. And the dolly legs and. Are any of those? Can you maybe just give me a 289 00:28:21,329 --> 00:28:25,769 representation of how hard something like that is to fix how long or how much time it's going to 290 00:28:25,769 --> 00:28:30,289 take? Uh, being a preventable thing, that's obviously something we're looking at is, hey, if 291 00:28:30,329 --> 00:28:35,249 we're if we're doing the job, uh, the best that we can, we're going to prevent some of this time. But, 292 00:28:35,249 --> 00:28:41,529 Jeff, give me an idea. How much time does it take to repair a bent leg or any of the other things 293 00:28:41,529 --> 00:28:48,529 you brought up here? Well, the legs might take some time, you know what I'm saying? Um, it might take a 294 00:28:48,530 --> 00:28:55,488 few hours, but, you know, the the cushion. You can change that in 15 minutes, but it's 295 00:28:55,489 --> 00:29:01,570 the cost that goes with it, you know, for the part. I mean, it adds up. I mean, if you got to do it 296 00:29:01,609 --> 00:29:06,650 every 30 days, you know. Sure. I mean, that cushion ring ain't. 297 00:29:09,449 --> 00:29:13,649 Interesting stuff there. And and listen, that's one thing we want to bring into the conversation. Here 298 00:29:13,649 --> 00:29:18,529 is the cost of this. That's one of the things we're trying to cut down on, right? We can cut down 299 00:29:18,529 --> 00:29:22,969 on maintenance costs. Everybody's going to make more money. That's a rising tide. Lifts all ships 300 00:29:23,009 --> 00:29:29,929 things. So, uh, great stuff there. Jeremy. Let's talk about Saginaw real quick. What's the most, uh, 301 00:29:29,930 --> 00:29:35,890 preventable issue that you see rolling into the shop out there? Is it the same thing? Uh, a lot of 302 00:29:35,890 --> 00:29:42,729 it is the landing legs. Um, we I've tried to get these guys to understand that if 303 00:29:42,770 --> 00:29:49,489 if you just take the time to gauge the height of the trailer before they try to hook up to it, then 304 00:29:49,530 --> 00:29:56,529 yeah, it could it would save a whole lot of time and problems. The, uh, the only other really 305 00:29:56,529 --> 00:30:02,769 bad thing. And it's nothing that thankfully we haven't had any issues, but I've been working on 306 00:30:02,770 --> 00:30:07,050 trying to get these guys back in the habit of doing the basic thing and just putting the 307 00:30:07,050 --> 00:30:12,849 airlines away at the end of the day, and the reason I said get on them so hard about it is 308 00:30:12,850 --> 00:30:18,249 because we're in the rainy season down here in Texas right now, and if they keep leaving their 309 00:30:18,250 --> 00:30:23,729 stuff on the catwalk, well, you know, water gets in the lines and then that water can push through 310 00:30:23,730 --> 00:30:30,329 the air system. And the next thing I know, I could be out of an air tank, a whole airline, or I may 311 00:30:30,329 --> 00:30:37,008 end up having to replace a whole set of air lines and cables. ABS. Wow, $500 312 00:30:37,689 --> 00:30:44,689 ABS. Those dry air dryers. That's a that's yeah, it's just a lot of the simple stuff. I'm trying to 313 00:30:44,689 --> 00:30:51,529 get my guys here back in the habit of, like, you know, draining your air tanks for your airlines, uh, 314 00:30:51,530 --> 00:30:58,409 making sure that you have everything you need. But that and yeah, landing legs are 315 00:30:58,410 --> 00:31:04,369 one of our biggest things. And some of them is really preventable. There's some times where it's 316 00:31:04,369 --> 00:31:11,129 just completely dry over here. Uh, I want to say, I think it was about a year ago, I had a 317 00:31:11,130 --> 00:31:17,169 guy completely fold a whole set of legs because he forgot to raise his landing legs up before he 318 00:31:17,169 --> 00:31:23,809 left. Oh, no. That that's that. That sounds like a big one now. It's funny, I, I can see Brad right now. 319 00:31:23,809 --> 00:31:28,649 He's on the screen. And, uh, Brad, I will say you just about threw a muscle out in your neck 320 00:31:28,650 --> 00:31:33,009 shaking your head that. Yes, the the same problems that Saginaw are the ones you're seeing at Plain 321 00:31:33,010 --> 00:31:38,449 City. Yeah. I'm really glad. I'm glad he brought up the airlines. I mean, that that that's, uh, something 322 00:31:38,449 --> 00:31:45,129 that we probably don't, uh, press enough around here, you know, because that can 323 00:31:45,130 --> 00:31:51,208 be, you know, you just don't want water in your air system, period. And. Sure. And it's became it's 324 00:31:51,249 --> 00:31:58,249 become so more it's so much more critical to have a dry air system now than what 325 00:31:58,249 --> 00:32:04,689 it used two years ago. So and it's always been kind of critical, but it's real critical now. Sure. 326 00:32:04,730 --> 00:32:10,019 Jeremy, did you have anything to add there before I head down to the foster terminal, fellas. Other 327 00:32:10,020 --> 00:32:14,339 than that, I mean, it's just trying to get people back into the bare, basic things that they should 328 00:32:14,380 --> 00:32:20,699 be doing. As you know, professional driver and just making sure that they do the do it right. And then 329 00:32:20,699 --> 00:32:24,860 if they keep doing it, it becomes muscle memory. And then they don't have to worry about 330 00:32:24,860 --> 00:32:29,659 overthinking. Oh, did I put this? No, I know I put it up because I went through my steps before I 331 00:32:29,699 --> 00:32:36,059 walked off the yard for sure. Now that's, you know, developing good habits, uh, can really help the 332 00:32:36,060 --> 00:32:41,419 shop. That's something that I can tell you from just my experience in talking to drivers, dealing 333 00:32:41,419 --> 00:32:45,699 with other terminals. That's one thing the shop guys say. And we're going to get to a question 334 00:32:45,699 --> 00:32:49,818 about pre-trip inspections here in just a second. I think you guys are really going to love that 335 00:32:49,819 --> 00:32:55,579 one too. But first, I want to go down to the foster terminal and talk to Junior and Shawn, uh, about the 336 00:32:55,580 --> 00:33:00,499 the most common preventable issues that they're seeing at foster. Is it the same, uh, as we've 337 00:33:00,499 --> 00:33:06,059 already been talking about, guys, or is there other stuff. You want to do over here? Um, well, I mean, 338 00:33:06,060 --> 00:33:12,619 yeah, it kind of is the same, but I think the biggest thing here would be, uh, tires are like, I 339 00:33:12,620 --> 00:33:19,539 have changed so many tires down here that I still have life left in them. You know, they 340 00:33:19,699 --> 00:33:26,299 a lot of guys don't seem to have the time to let their trailer fully air up. They are air ride 341 00:33:26,300 --> 00:33:32,258 trailers, most of them now. I think they're used to the spring ride trailers, so they don't let them 342 00:33:32,300 --> 00:33:38,859 air up properly, and then they will drag the tires off. Interesting. How, uh, junior, what from your 343 00:33:38,860 --> 00:33:45,219 perspective? Uh, I would say patience. And like Shawn said, tires, if they just 344 00:33:45,620 --> 00:33:51,299 took the time while they're getting fuel, pick their tires. It's going to it's going to save on 345 00:33:51,299 --> 00:33:58,259 service calls and but I'd go like the cushions. I change a lot of those because every 346 00:33:58,259 --> 00:34:04,819 time if a trailer is hooked to the truck, whenever I bring it in, I drop the trailer. When I started 347 00:34:04,819 --> 00:34:11,819 was. So I've been finding a lot of cushions. Okay, cushions and tires. And listen, we know tires 348 00:34:11,820 --> 00:34:15,819 aren't cheap. Brad, I don't know if you got a number off the top of your head there real quick 349 00:34:15,820 --> 00:34:21,698 for, uh, drive tires or steer tires, but, uh, not a cheap thing to have to put on. No, they're not. 350 00:34:21,699 --> 00:34:28,699 They're way up there nowadays. Yeah, man. You're seven. You're 700 for a drive tire a little bit 351 00:34:28,699 --> 00:34:35,339 under that. And you know the steers are there over 600 and the trailer tires are 400. So 352 00:34:35,459 --> 00:34:41,820 all tires are super expensive in this business. Uh, we don't run retread and trailer tires due to the 353 00:34:41,820 --> 00:34:48,620 aluminum fenders that we have. We do run some retread dry tires. Um, but for the 354 00:34:48,620 --> 00:34:53,458 most part, they're they're just expensive, you know? And I think one thing I would like to interject 355 00:34:53,459 --> 00:35:00,219 here is virtually every, every item that we've touched on. And I'll touch on one more, 356 00:35:00,580 --> 00:35:07,459 uh, for especially like the cement haulers, fly ash haulers, and lime haulers. Uh, if you wipe 357 00:35:07,459 --> 00:35:12,739 the top of your dome lid off and keep that, keep the build up from building up on top of that lip. 358 00:35:13,060 --> 00:35:19,499 It helps. Our dome lid seals last a lot longer. And you have much, much, uh, a lot fewer dome lid 359 00:35:19,499 --> 00:35:25,458 leaks. Um. Interesting. Aside from. That. Totally. Right. Aside from that, 360 00:35:25,860 --> 00:35:32,779 um, one of the things that that I think every single item that we've hit on as far as what we 361 00:35:32,780 --> 00:35:39,779 think can be preventable or all preventable by taking just a little more time because 362 00:35:39,780 --> 00:35:45,179 most everything here is caused by being in a hurry. You know, definitely the cushion rings, 363 00:35:45,219 --> 00:35:51,659 definitely the dolly legs, you know, everything's. And again, we understand everybody wants to get 364 00:35:51,659 --> 00:35:57,819 home. Everyone wants to spend at least. But one thing you know that what can you do to help 365 00:35:57,820 --> 00:36:04,739 yourself have a better day? You know, and then I like to look at it sometimes as if. 366 00:36:04,780 --> 00:36:11,020 What can I do to do my job better to make somebody else's job easier? You know, I think if 367 00:36:11,020 --> 00:36:17,299 everyone took that attitude and I take that attitude or try to. Sometimes you get in bad 368 00:36:17,300 --> 00:36:23,299 attitudes. Everybody does. But I try to look at it from that attitude and, and I think the answer 369 00:36:23,300 --> 00:36:28,179 when I ask myself that question, the answer is always yes. There's something I can do better that 370 00:36:28,179 --> 00:36:34,539 would make somebody else's job easier. And I think if everyone across the entire company looked at 371 00:36:34,540 --> 00:36:41,378 it kind of in that way, we would prevent some of these. Uh, you know, we get sometimes a driver, a 372 00:36:41,379 --> 00:36:46,978 drop a trailer and didn't write up a bad product hose or a leaky product end. And then the next 373 00:36:46,979 --> 00:36:53,659 driver gets a hold of it and he's got a problem. So, you know, what can I do better to help 374 00:36:53,659 --> 00:36:59,939 somebody else have a better day? And I think, uh, you know, that would help everything run smoother. 375 00:37:01,100 --> 00:37:06,259 100%, 100%. It's got a big ripple effect when you just do one little thing that can make somebody 376 00:37:06,259 --> 00:37:11,300 else's day better, because then they're going to do one little thing and just on and on and on 377 00:37:11,300 --> 00:37:16,819 down the line. Uh, junior, I think I cut you off there a bit ago. Did you have anything else to add? 378 00:37:16,820 --> 00:37:23,459 Before we move on to the next question, you or Shaun? Um, like Brad said there, you know, everybody 379 00:37:23,459 --> 00:37:29,939 wants to get home. But if they just took that 5 or 10 minutes here, you know, wherever at the 380 00:37:29,939 --> 00:37:35,939 shop, it's better than four hours down the road waiting for somebody to come fix a tire or 381 00:37:35,939 --> 00:37:42,779 something. For. Sure. So therefore, you're way behind now. Okay, I got it. Well, listen, fellas, uh, far be it 382 00:37:42,780 --> 00:37:48,299 for me to not have a little bit of fun in here on the show. And I had an experience once I was at a 383 00:37:48,300 --> 00:37:53,378 terminal. Uh, a driver had just dropped his truck off the shop. Guys were in it. They were cleaning 384 00:37:53,379 --> 00:37:59,819 it out because he was getting into a new truck. And out walks the tech with a 385 00:37:59,820 --> 00:38:06,698 industrial sized tub of Vaseline. I'm talking 48oz. Uh, just it 386 00:38:06,699 --> 00:38:12,699 was in the. It was in the door panel. And he when he saw it, he went and gloved up and he grabbed 387 00:38:12,699 --> 00:38:19,340 Ahold of it, and he came out looking at me like he'd seen a ghost. So glad he gloved up, for sure. 388 00:38:19,340 --> 00:38:25,100 So I gotta ask you guys, uh, because you guys are constantly seeing it, and we'll leave names out of 389 00:38:25,100 --> 00:38:30,780 this. Don't tell me whose truck it was. But, uh, starting with you, Shawn, what is the strangest 390 00:38:30,780 --> 00:38:37,499 thing you've ever found in a truck that you were working on? So, I 391 00:38:37,500 --> 00:38:44,378 mean, I I've seen a lot of stuff in these trucks. Yes, but I think the strangest 392 00:38:44,379 --> 00:38:50,860 thing that I've seen would be, um, by far, uh, a guy had 393 00:38:51,139 --> 00:38:57,549 all of his lunch. It looked like maybe from weeks ago that was stacked in the side of 394 00:38:57,550 --> 00:39:04,509 his truck on his seat, like instead of throwing it away. And at one point at the same truck, there was 395 00:39:04,510 --> 00:39:11,509 a half eaten bag of dog treats in there. Now I hope that he was feeding this to someone's dog 396 00:39:11,550 --> 00:39:18,509 and not eating it himself. Oh man, you know, it is, uh, it is federal law that all 397 00:39:18,509 --> 00:39:24,188 dog food has to be human grade in the United States. So he could have been eating it. Maybe he 398 00:39:24,189 --> 00:39:29,869 grabbed a quick snack himself. You know, I don't know. You never know. You never. Know. You never know, 399 00:39:29,909 --> 00:39:36,229 man. You never know. That's great. Junior. How about you, man? Uh, where do you want me to start? At the 400 00:39:36,229 --> 00:39:43,228 best one. Oh. Well, I was under somebody's 401 00:39:43,229 --> 00:39:50,110 bunk once. Had a whole pile of Playboys with a Bible on top. Well, I mean, 402 00:39:50,149 --> 00:39:54,870 at least at least their priorities are straight. They had the Bible on top and not underneath. 403 00:39:54,950 --> 00:40:01,788 Right? Right. Right. Are you straight? Hey. Like I said, it's lonely out there on the road. Man. 404 00:40:01,830 --> 00:40:08,549 Gets lonely out there on the road. Um, second, I would have to go in the fuze panel 405 00:40:08,549 --> 00:40:15,109 and found a bunch of. I don't even want to say it. I don't even know if I'm allowed to say it. 406 00:40:15,589 --> 00:40:20,389 You're allowed. We could. Add. It. Oh, there you go. You just got clearance. We can always edit it out 407 00:40:20,389 --> 00:40:27,349 if it's too much. Okay. The condoms. Okay. Prophylactics. Stuff like that. I gotcha. Okay. 408 00:40:27,509 --> 00:40:32,069 Uh, well, you know, uh, we'll we'll put that one in for review and see if it gets to stay in. But 409 00:40:32,070 --> 00:40:36,950 let's just say something that you're right. Something that definitely shouldn't have been in 410 00:40:36,950 --> 00:40:43,749 the fuze panel. All right. That's what we can say was. You asked. I delivered man. Puffs. Absolutely. 411 00:40:43,749 --> 00:40:49,229 That's great. Well, see, I asked this question for a very specific reason. And that's why you can't 412 00:40:49,230 --> 00:40:55,628 guess what you're going to find in these trucks sometimes. Uh, Jeremy, let's go to you out there at 413 00:40:55,629 --> 00:41:01,869 Saginaw. Man. You found anything crazy in a truck you were working on out there in Texas? Thankfully, 414 00:41:01,870 --> 00:41:08,189 the worst that I found in any of these trucks are. Um, I had one person that had a 415 00:41:08,190 --> 00:41:15,109 literal pyramid of piss bottles. Oh, jeez. Okay. I'm 416 00:41:15,110 --> 00:41:20,789 not like. I'm not kidding. It was legitimately stacked in a nice, neat, organized pyramid. 417 00:41:22,310 --> 00:41:27,310 Well, I hope that you've only had that happen once. I'll just put it like that. And we can move right 418 00:41:27,310 --> 00:41:34,149 past that one. Because I think we all know the Lord that goes behind those things. 419 00:41:34,149 --> 00:41:39,989 And truck driving, especially over the road. Truck driving. Uh, the rule is you don't you don't touch 420 00:41:39,989 --> 00:41:44,269 any Gatorade that you find on the side of the road. That's just the rule on the highways and 421 00:41:44,270 --> 00:41:50,829 byways of America. Um, crazy stuff there. Uh, anything else, Jeremy? That, uh, that maybe, uh, 422 00:41:50,829 --> 00:41:57,148 surprised you a little bit. Thankfully, I haven't seen anything wild. I've 423 00:41:57,669 --> 00:42:04,509 just mainly P bottles and old. Old. Well, I did find there was one guy 424 00:42:04,510 --> 00:42:11,388 about six months ago. I did find like a full lunch bag from McDonald's, and it looked 425 00:42:11,389 --> 00:42:17,069 like it had been in there for like three weeks. Oh, wow. Just like he like he bought lunch and then 426 00:42:17,069 --> 00:42:21,149 forgot to eat it and then just forgot that it was in the truck and then just, you know, let it sit 427 00:42:21,150 --> 00:42:26,669 there and rot. And nice thing about fast food is it can go, like, what, 4 or 6 months before it even 428 00:42:26,669 --> 00:42:33,549 looks like it's rotting, right? It just stays the exact same. All right. Uh, Jeff, you got tons of 429 00:42:33,550 --> 00:42:39,069 experience, man. You've been doing this for a long time. Three decades. Plus, I'm sure you've come 430 00:42:39,070 --> 00:42:44,949 across some questionable things. Uh, what stands out in your mind? I mean, about the same as what 431 00:42:44,950 --> 00:42:51,668 they had, you know, pee bottles and trash. You know, that's about it. Well that's good. 432 00:42:51,710 --> 00:42:57,109 I mean. I try not to go in there looking for it, right? Right. And that is something we should 433 00:42:57,110 --> 00:43:02,309 establish is these guys aren't out there playing detective. It's just what they come across when 434 00:43:02,310 --> 00:43:07,149 they're going to make the fixes. Uh, Brad, I know you've been you've been heading this up for a 435 00:43:07,149 --> 00:43:11,749 long time. Is there anything off the top of your head that you didn't just hear? Uh, reference that 436 00:43:11,749 --> 00:43:17,789 you might want to bring up before we move to our next question? You know, if I thought really hard, 437 00:43:17,790 --> 00:43:21,869 Mark, as I could probably come with something, something off the wall, but I. I don't think we 438 00:43:21,870 --> 00:43:27,749 need to go there. Okay, I like that. Let's see a little bit of being being judicious here with our 439 00:43:27,749 --> 00:43:32,829 stories. That's always a good thing. So. All right, uh, like I said, just a little bit of fun here to 440 00:43:32,870 --> 00:43:38,629 break things up. But the next question I have gets right back on the serious track here. Um, and it's 441 00:43:38,629 --> 00:43:43,669 something that is so important throughout all lanes of trucking. It doesn't matter whether 442 00:43:43,669 --> 00:43:48,709 you're driving a box truck, a school bus, or whether you're hauling pneumatic or flatbed or 443 00:43:48,709 --> 00:43:54,359 any of the rest of it. And that is our pre-trip inspection. And I always want to ask mechanics and 444 00:43:54,360 --> 00:43:59,799 guys that work in the shop. Uh, Brad, I'll start here with you. If you could stand behind or beside 445 00:43:59,800 --> 00:44:05,320 every driver during a pre-trip tomorrow morning, what would you make sure they checked and double 446 00:44:05,320 --> 00:44:11,759 checked and then checked in triplicate, just to be sure. We only ask them to. I mean, 447 00:44:12,000 --> 00:44:17,839 I know when you asked me a very simple question, I'm going to give you a long answer. And I make 448 00:44:17,840 --> 00:44:24,600 fun of people that usually do this, but I'm going to do it anyways. So if you choose to go to your 449 00:44:24,600 --> 00:44:31,159 driving school to get your CDL, the pre-trip that they want you to do in order to pass a CDL 450 00:44:31,159 --> 00:44:37,198 is much more in depth than what we're really asking our drivers to do. We're making the we want 451 00:44:37,199 --> 00:44:44,159 to make them responsible for basically two big items tires, tires, 452 00:44:44,600 --> 00:44:50,999 tires, lights, Light. Lights. That's three. That's the two things. Tires of light. 453 00:44:51,560 --> 00:44:58,439 Okay. Um, obviously, you know, if they noticed the frames broke 454 00:44:58,439 --> 00:45:03,918 in half, we wouldn't want them taken off down the road. You know what I mean? But. Right. But we really. 455 00:45:03,959 --> 00:45:10,239 We really don't. They're inspection, pre-trip inspections. But we really need them to catch is 456 00:45:10,240 --> 00:45:16,839 the things that can happen at any time, which is tires and lights, you know. And 457 00:45:17,319 --> 00:45:22,359 so I mean that's it. Tires and lights. That's that's it. Tires and lights I like it. You you said 458 00:45:22,360 --> 00:45:27,559 it was a long, drawn out answer, but I think just very simple tires and like you said them both 459 00:45:27,559 --> 00:45:34,280 three times. So I got it. All right, Jeff, how about you, man? Standing next to a driver. Is it the same 460 00:45:34,280 --> 00:45:40,479 thing? Uh, tires and lights? Yeah. Tower of lights. And at least glance at your lug nuts. Make sure 461 00:45:40,480 --> 00:45:45,839 you ain't got nothing to lose. You know. That's an easy one, right? That's real quick. Especially, you 462 00:45:45,879 --> 00:45:52,718 know, we run aluminum wheels. I mean, it's real easy to tell. Okay, so along with tires, lug nuts. 463 00:45:52,760 --> 00:45:57,839 Jeremy, how about for you, man? You're standing next to me. I'm doing a pre-trip. What are you drilling 464 00:45:57,879 --> 00:46:04,679 down there in Saginaw? Other than what's already been said, is making sure that they 465 00:46:04,679 --> 00:46:11,520 open their hood and they check their their fluid levels. And you see a lot of guys running out with, 466 00:46:11,560 --> 00:46:16,159 uh, with low fluid or anything like that, or just maybe some, uh, some maintenance issues that can be 467 00:46:16,159 --> 00:46:23,039 prevented if fluids don't get low. It's mainly just making sure, because I get, uh, we, we've 468 00:46:23,040 --> 00:46:30,039 got a station where they can get, you know, cooling oil. But I know I've gotten on to a couple of 469 00:46:30,039 --> 00:46:35,360 guys because I see them doing their, their quote unquote pre-trip, but they won't open their hood 470 00:46:35,360 --> 00:46:41,239 and they'll go over there and I'll be like, you know, hey, uh, what's what's your oil level at? Oh, I 471 00:46:41,240 --> 00:46:46,799 don't know. Okay. Well, what what's your the transmission of all that? Well, I don't know. All 472 00:46:46,919 --> 00:46:51,038 right. Well, don't you think you ought to probably check those and make sure that you don't seize 473 00:46:51,039 --> 00:46:57,719 the damn engines, drive it down the road. Good point, man. So we're checking dip sticks out there 474 00:46:57,719 --> 00:47:04,319 at Saginaw and and very thoroughly. Right? Yeah, absolutely. Got it. How about down at 475 00:47:04,320 --> 00:47:10,719 foster? Uh, junior, go to you first. Um, other than tires, lights. Uh, checking our fluid levels. Are you 476 00:47:10,759 --> 00:47:17,159 seeing anything that you would like the drivers to pre-trip a little better? I mean, like, uh, 477 00:47:17,679 --> 00:47:24,359 like they said, tires, lights. Of course, I'm mainly trucks, but, like, um, for example, like lug nuts and 478 00:47:24,360 --> 00:47:31,320 stuff. I just happen to be pretty nosey down here. I am, uh, I was walking out, parked a 479 00:47:31,320 --> 00:47:38,120 truck, and, uh, walked by this trailer. The whole axles busted away from it, and the driver did not 480 00:47:38,120 --> 00:47:43,639 even know it. Getting ready to go get loaded. And that would, uh. I mean, Brad can tell you that it 481 00:47:43,639 --> 00:47:49,639 would have been. It would have been a long night. I imagine so, I imagine so lots of phone calls to 482 00:47:49,679 --> 00:47:56,159 clean that one up. It would have been good phone calls. Yeah. For sure. Don't tire sites in the 483 00:47:56,160 --> 00:48:02,918 obvious. Tires, lights in the obvious, I like that. That's good. Yeah. The obvious. You know 484 00:48:03,120 --> 00:48:09,280 how the driver did not see. I mean, the wheels are, you know, whatever. A foot up, you know, foot out 485 00:48:09,280 --> 00:48:15,839 from the back axle. I don't know how it even went down the road. Wow. That's amazing. It made it here. 486 00:48:15,840 --> 00:48:21,639 And we we got her tagged out of service, and it'll be the next one to get in here and get fixed. Gosh, 487 00:48:21,639 --> 00:48:26,360 how how fortunate that you caught that man. And that's one thing you want to draw attention to 488 00:48:26,399 --> 00:48:31,319 here is your mechanics. Are they got a very keen eye for stuff like this. But that doesn't mean 489 00:48:31,320 --> 00:48:37,479 that drivers can't catch it first. Right? Correct. Saving lives. Shawn Marcus saving lives. That's 490 00:48:37,480 --> 00:48:43,199 what I tell you guys out in the shop is saving lives when they do that stuff. Absolutely. That 491 00:48:43,199 --> 00:48:50,039 could have been a catastrophic accident with an issue like that. Um, and yeah, I'm bad. I mean, 492 00:48:50,080 --> 00:48:54,959 saving lives is a really good way to put it. And you guys do that work every single day of the 493 00:48:54,959 --> 00:49:01,399 week. Um, Shawn, uh, question. Same question to you, man. Anything that stands out to you that you would be 494 00:49:01,440 --> 00:49:08,040 harping on as far as the pre-trip is concerned? Um, so yeah, like they other guys were 495 00:49:08,040 --> 00:49:14,878 saying tires like. But a big thing that I have noticed is that their product hose, their unload 496 00:49:14,879 --> 00:49:21,079 hose. A lot of guys like to switch trailers, and they take their hose with them and put them in 497 00:49:21,080 --> 00:49:26,799 the trailer that they switch to. Well, that leaves that trailer with an empty hose. And whenever they 498 00:49:26,799 --> 00:49:31,479 get to their customer, they can't unload because they don't have a hose. They didn't check while 499 00:49:31,480 --> 00:49:38,039 they was at the shop. So again, that sounds like one of those things in the obvious, uh, 500 00:49:38,479 --> 00:49:43,449 tunnel that Brad was talking about there? Yeah, right. Just go. Just flip the host door. Open. Look 501 00:49:43,489 --> 00:49:49,009 up in there and pull it out. Look, you know. So you're kind of getting to something here that 502 00:49:49,009 --> 00:49:54,569 came up as a as a pretty big theme when I was having, uh, lunch with the, the shop there in Plain 503 00:49:54,570 --> 00:50:00,450 City Brattle. I'll start with you here. But you said, I think, uh, get out and look. Of course. Goal! 504 00:50:00,450 --> 00:50:07,009 We all know that one. Get out and look is a lot faster than fixing something. Um, and you kind of 505 00:50:07,050 --> 00:50:13,250 alluded to, Brad, how the get out and look can, can basically keep us from having a 20 minute repair 506 00:50:13,289 --> 00:50:19,929 turn into a three day problem. Can you speak to that a little bit? Well, absolutely. I mean, if you 507 00:50:19,930 --> 00:50:24,289 if you get out and look like it'll be a thing, it all goes back to what we've kind of been saying. 508 00:50:24,330 --> 00:50:30,169 Is it just take the extra five minutes to make sure that that everything's going to go well 509 00:50:30,770 --> 00:50:37,569 and, uh, you know, again, getting out and look at it saves saves 510 00:50:37,610 --> 00:50:44,129 us time in the shop, but not necessarily the driver time. So I think this goes back to the the 511 00:50:44,490 --> 00:50:49,369 earlier scenario of what can I do to make look, how can I do my job better to make somebody 512 00:50:49,370 --> 00:50:56,330 else's job easier? Get out and looks one of those things. Absolutely. Well fellas, 513 00:50:56,370 --> 00:51:01,689 this has all been great here. And the reason that I'm you guys have listened to this show or if you 514 00:51:01,689 --> 00:51:06,369 haven't, one thing that we do on every single interview as we clear some time for what we call 515 00:51:06,370 --> 00:51:11,490 final thoughts and the reason that I'm stopping this a little bit short and I'm leaving a lot of 516 00:51:11,490 --> 00:51:16,009 time for our final thoughts today, is because I think the final thoughts may vary, and they might 517 00:51:16,009 --> 00:51:22,489 be a little bit long. So what we intend our Final Thoughts segment to be about is a anything that 518 00:51:22,490 --> 00:51:27,809 we left on the table. Anything I didn't ask you about or get to that. You guys see that something 519 00:51:27,810 --> 00:51:33,609 we can talk about here today shortly. Uh, that might save some time, some money, some effort, or 520 00:51:33,610 --> 00:51:39,129 even a life down the road. Uh, I want to make sure and talk about it. So the other thing you can do 521 00:51:39,129 --> 00:51:42,730 with your Final Thoughts segment, if you've covered everything you want to talk about here on 522 00:51:42,730 --> 00:51:47,849 the show today, uh, you can give us any shout outs. Anybody that might be listening, uh, the the floor 523 00:51:47,850 --> 00:51:54,849 is yours. That's the point here. Uh, so I'm going to start from, uh, the foster terminal and, uh, move my 524 00:51:54,850 --> 00:52:00,729 way up the list here. Shawn. Uh, Shawn Earlywine, thank you so much, man, for the time today. I know you 525 00:52:00,729 --> 00:52:05,969 guys are busy, all of you. And this is really cool that we get to spend 45, 50 minutes here with you 526 00:52:06,010 --> 00:52:11,049 chatting. Uh, final thoughts from you, Shawn, from the foster terminal today. Before we let you go, 527 00:52:11,049 --> 00:52:16,929 anything we left on the table here that you want to mention before we get out of here? Um, no, I 528 00:52:16,929 --> 00:52:22,610 don't think so. I think the main thing was, like, what? Uh, Brad was hitting on there. Just go. Just 529 00:52:22,610 --> 00:52:28,449 just get out there. Look, you know that that will save so much time for everyone. 530 00:52:30,090 --> 00:52:36,968 Junior are pretty much all the same stuff. I mean, it's a great place to work, 531 00:52:36,969 --> 00:52:43,488 man. 18 years close to home. Brad is family. All good people. And, uh, 532 00:52:43,729 --> 00:52:48,610 about it, man. Man, it's not the first time I've heard it on this show, and it definitely won't be 533 00:52:48,610 --> 00:52:55,569 the last. Uh. That is, it won't be good people. Yes, they are great people. Shawn Earlywine, 534 00:52:55,570 --> 00:53:00,929 and Junior Taylor from down there. Foster. You guys did awesome today. Stick with me for a second here 535 00:53:00,929 --> 00:53:06,169 as I go to Jeremy Hall out there in Saginaw. Jeremy. Final thoughts? Anything we didn't get on 536 00:53:06,169 --> 00:53:09,888 the table today or any shout outs or anything like that you want to give before I let you get 537 00:53:09,889 --> 00:53:16,889 back to it, my friend? I think the the biggest thing is I. I, at least from what 538 00:53:16,889 --> 00:53:23,729 I see, is just the making sure that the drivers do the little things. You know, it's always the 539 00:53:23,730 --> 00:53:30,250 small things. Like it has been said earlier, it's the small things that will add up in the long 540 00:53:30,250 --> 00:53:37,249 run. Uh, I just That's why I'd take so much time trying to reinforce the. Oh, hey, you know. Make sure 541 00:53:37,250 --> 00:53:43,849 you're checking ABC go by the book. You know, just give back in the muscle memory of things that 542 00:53:43,850 --> 00:53:50,290 should have already been there. As far as the shout out. Uh, there's so many. We have quite a few 543 00:53:50,330 --> 00:53:55,569 vendors out here, but I do want to give a shout out to the shop up the street. Um, accelerated 544 00:53:55,610 --> 00:54:02,529 tweet services, uh, specifically Mike, the mechanic that's on our account. He does a really 545 00:54:02,529 --> 00:54:08,689 great job. Uh, he's on. He's pretty much Johnny on the spot for when we need something done. 546 00:54:08,929 --> 00:54:15,569 Especially if it's like, uh, for example, we have two yard dogs here that are constantly 547 00:54:15,570 --> 00:54:22,409 running. So if one goes down and I'm off at a vendor picking up parts, or I'm 548 00:54:22,409 --> 00:54:28,449 on a roll call or whatever, I know I can call Mike and he'll come over here real quick and figure 549 00:54:28,490 --> 00:54:34,769 out what the problem is and get it back up and running so we're not having to split. One yard dog 550 00:54:34,809 --> 00:54:41,489 between, you know, two positions on the here on the the mill site. Sure. So I, I. 551 00:54:41,530 --> 00:54:48,329 Do. I do. They do a really good job for us and I really. Appreciate everything that they do. Well 552 00:54:48,330 --> 00:54:52,809 that's a great shout out. And I can tell you this I, I've just watching Brad over here. He's nodding 553 00:54:52,810 --> 00:54:57,249 his head. I looked like he was at a metal concert for a second. I think he's in agreement with you, 554 00:54:57,330 --> 00:55:01,849 uh, about those things that you just said, Jeremy. And, uh, thank you so much for the time. We 555 00:55:01,850 --> 00:55:07,529 appreciate it. Uh, you guys all have done such a good job here today. Jeff, I'm going to you for 556 00:55:07,530 --> 00:55:11,769 your final thoughts, my friend. Anything we left on the table you might want to talk about before we 557 00:55:11,770 --> 00:55:17,529 let you go? No. Not really. Well, not that I can think of, you know. 558 00:55:19,010 --> 00:55:25,849 Hey, Jeff. And we appreciate the time. We can be here all day. I. I won't keep you. I know 559 00:55:25,850 --> 00:55:31,740 you're a busy guy. We appreciate the time. Uh, Brad, on to you for your final thoughts here. You guys 560 00:55:31,740 --> 00:55:37,179 run such a tight ship out there. As I said earlier, the drivers talk about it. They like the equipment 561 00:55:37,179 --> 00:55:42,859 there. They're really happy with the way you guys keep them safe. They're on the road. Uh, final 562 00:55:42,860 --> 00:55:47,099 thoughts for you, Brad, or any shoutouts that you might want to give before we let you get back to 563 00:55:47,100 --> 00:55:53,379 it? Well, first of all, I wasn't agreeing with Jeremy. I was in here. Listen to AC, DC. Yeah, there 564 00:55:53,379 --> 00:56:00,379 you go. Okay. That's right. Uh. I mean, I got some, uh, ultimately what I want to shout out to a lot 565 00:56:00,379 --> 00:56:04,738 of our drivers. We got great drivers. We don't want to sound like we're sitting here having a gripe 566 00:56:04,739 --> 00:56:11,419 session. We have drivers that go beyond what we sometimes on and on and above what we ask, you 567 00:56:11,419 --> 00:56:17,020 know, and and sometimes we're in bad situations and we ask them to do things we know they don't 568 00:56:17,020 --> 00:56:23,499 want them do. And and they buckle up and they do it. So, uh, we. Like coming on the podcast, right? Brad? 569 00:56:23,620 --> 00:56:30,619 All our hard working drivers, um, they work hard, long hours. I mean, I think anyone that 570 00:56:30,620 --> 00:56:36,499 drives around the United States these days knows it's difficult. There's a lot of traffic in the 571 00:56:36,500 --> 00:56:41,979 world these days. It's not it's different than what it was 25 years ago. I mean, there's just a 572 00:56:41,979 --> 00:56:47,059 lot of traffic and and frustrating. I get frustrated sometimes driving from here to my 573 00:56:47,059 --> 00:56:53,579 house. So if I had to do it every day, I don't know. But so I shout out to the drivers, they do a great 574 00:56:53,579 --> 00:56:58,580 job. We don't want to sit here and pick and complain. That's that's really if that's what it 575 00:56:58,580 --> 00:57:04,859 sounded like. That's not our goal was we want to make, uh, have a scenario where 576 00:57:05,379 --> 00:57:10,179 it's better for everybody if we can, you know, make things a little bit better for everybody. Uh, 577 00:57:10,219 --> 00:57:15,979 that's where we want to get to. You know, that's always, uh, always our goal is to improve a little 578 00:57:16,020 --> 00:57:21,500 bit every day for sure. For sure. And, and, you know, sometimes you do have to ask people to do things 579 00:57:21,500 --> 00:57:28,339 they don't want to do, like coming on the podcast. Right, Jeff. That's right. I know. 580 00:57:28,899 --> 00:57:34,819 That's right. I oh. All. These guys, Marcus, all these guys are wanting. They got retribution. I got 581 00:57:34,819 --> 00:57:40,698 retribution to pay or, uh, whatever, you know, uh, they've all said. Yeah. We'll get him. Back at. Some. 582 00:57:40,699 --> 00:57:47,659 Point. There will be. Well, gentlemen, I appreciate the time. I know that this is a way 583 00:57:47,660 --> 00:57:52,138 out of bounds for what you guys are doing on the daily. Uh, but you did great here. And I hope that, 584 00:57:52,139 --> 00:57:56,779 uh, maybe here in six months, eight months, we can get another shop round table going and talk about 585 00:57:56,779 --> 00:58:01,699 the things that are going to arise as the winter months come in. I know that seasons are a big part 586 00:58:01,699 --> 00:58:07,378 of what you guys deal with there in the shop, so we'll get you back here again. But, uh, Brad DeWolf, 587 00:58:07,379 --> 00:58:12,739 Jeff Horsley, Jeremy Hall, Junior Taylor and Shawn Earlywine, you guys knocked it out of the park 588 00:58:12,739 --> 00:58:18,380 today. Thank you all so much for joining us here on Always Nomadic, Never Static. Have a great day. I 589 00:58:18,419 --> 00:58:22,099 normally tell the drivers, be safe out there, but I'm going to tell you guys, keep them safe out 590 00:58:22,100 --> 00:58:26,658 there. All right. Thanks, Mark. All right. Yeah. Thanks. Thank you. 591 00:58:34,340 --> 00:58:41,219 Huge thanks to Brad, Geoff, Jeremy, Junior and Shawn. What a great episode that was. Uh, one thing about 592 00:58:41,219 --> 00:58:45,419 getting in a room with a bunch of guys from the shop is you're going to have some laughs. All you 593 00:58:45,419 --> 00:58:50,059 got to do is get them talking. I learned that when I was out at playing city, eating barbecue with 594 00:58:50,060 --> 00:58:56,739 all the guys. Uh, what a fun group. And what a talented group of text that we've got here at 595 00:58:56,739 --> 00:59:01,340 Bulk and Spur. And there you heard it there. They're letting you know some of the things that 596 00:59:01,340 --> 00:59:07,419 we're seeing at large here, and some of the ways that you as drivers can help. And listen, I know 597 00:59:07,459 --> 00:59:14,419 that drivers greatly appreciate what the shop does. And, uh, if we can put a put a point on it 598 00:59:14,419 --> 00:59:20,579 real quick here, Brad did really sum it up very well. The guys at the shop are quite literally 599 00:59:20,579 --> 00:59:27,499 saving lives. We heard that, uh, that story about the detached Axel. That's really scary. And 600 00:59:27,500 --> 00:59:32,740 that can not only affect the driver in a very grave way. If they were to get in an accident and 601 00:59:32,740 --> 00:59:38,539 get injured, but that could have affected the motoring public as well, which we all know. We want 602 00:59:38,540 --> 00:59:43,019 to be safe out there first and foremost for ourselves and so we can get home to our families. 603 00:59:43,019 --> 00:59:48,179 But we also want everybody else out there on the road to be safe and to get home to their families. 604 00:59:48,179 --> 00:59:55,179 And that is the core of what the shop is doing every day, day in and day out. All those hard 605 00:59:55,180 --> 01:00:01,978 hours, all those smashed fingers, uh, all all of those just engines that won't cooperate when 606 01:00:01,979 --> 01:00:06,499 you're in there wrenching on them. That's what they're trying to do is save lives and make 607 01:00:06,500 --> 01:00:12,300 everybody safer out there. And, um, I don't want to take anything away from that point, because I 608 01:00:12,300 --> 01:00:18,699 think it was the most poignant point that was made all day. Some of this stuff is little, but, uh, 609 01:00:18,700 --> 01:00:25,138 those of you that have blown a steer tire before, uh, or even blown a drive tire, you know? Uh, all of 610 01:00:25,139 --> 01:00:32,099 a sudden, things get really, really, um, hard to deal with really, really fast. And if we're just out 611 01:00:32,100 --> 01:00:37,099 there taking a little bit more time, uh, we're we're getting out and looking. We're checking on 612 01:00:37,100 --> 01:00:43,099 things like tires, lights and the obvious, uh, air hoses, making sure we're putting those away. Making 613 01:00:43,099 --> 01:00:49,859 sure that we don't, uh, take the hose, uh, with us to a different trailer and leave one without it. Or 614 01:00:49,899 --> 01:00:55,179 as long as we do do that, making sure that we're checking that trailer as the other driver before 615 01:00:55,220 --> 01:01:01,578 to make sure you've got the right hose so you can get unloaded. Um, so much good stuff. I would say 616 01:01:01,620 --> 01:01:07,579 take this one, listen to it, and in two weeks, go back and listen to it again to see if you're able 617 01:01:07,580 --> 01:01:13,178 to kind of, uh, see the difference that it makes when you just take a little bit more time and 618 01:01:13,179 --> 01:01:19,259 make sure that all the equipment is in shipshape, because, listen, if it's not, you just heard from 619 01:01:19,259 --> 01:01:25,028 five guys, that will make sure. And they will bend over backwards to make sure that it is in 620 01:01:25,029 --> 01:01:31,989 shipshape ASAP. Fantastic stuff again. Hats off to Brad, Jeff, Jeremy, Junior, 621 01:01:31,989 --> 01:01:38,470 and Shawn. I always enjoy my talks with the guys in the shop. You know, I worked in an auto shop for a 622 01:01:38,470 --> 01:01:44,149 while when I was in high school. I will be honest with you, I was the lowest man on the totem pole. I 623 01:01:44,150 --> 01:01:49,949 was the detail boy. But I was also the grunt that the mechanics asked to come over and help when 624 01:01:49,949 --> 01:01:56,069 they were pulling an engine out of an S-10 or, you know, pulling a transmission out of a Silverado. 625 01:01:56,070 --> 01:02:02,949 And let me tell you, those guys are skilled, talented beyond belief and doing a job that I 626 01:02:02,989 --> 01:02:08,789 can't even scratch the surface of the knowledge base that you need to be able to fix these trucks. 627 01:02:08,789 --> 01:02:15,429 And the guys that I saw, they were fixing Chevys and GMC's, and it was still incredibly 628 01:02:15,429 --> 01:02:20,830 difficult and incredibly complicated. I can't imagine what it's like when you scale that truck 629 01:02:20,830 --> 01:02:27,230 up to the size of the trucks that were driving here at Bulk and Spur. So, uh, I will never say no 630 01:02:27,230 --> 01:02:33,589 to another episode as a for a roundtable with the shop. That is so much fun for me. Every single time 631 01:02:33,589 --> 01:02:39,909 I get to do it, I will caution you. These guys are so busy, we probably won't get one for another 52 632 01:02:39,910 --> 01:02:45,548 episodes. And if you're counting, that means next year. But that's okay. We will wait with bated 633 01:02:45,549 --> 01:02:50,870 breath for when we get the guys from the shop back on. Uh, they're out there doing the Lord's 634 01:02:50,870 --> 01:02:56,509 work, keeping everybody safe as best as they can. And, uh, I think as drivers, there's a way to help 635 01:02:56,509 --> 01:03:01,869 them out just a little bit by slowing down, checking for the obvious. Kicking those tires when 636 01:03:01,869 --> 01:03:07,308 you're feeling up. And all the other great advice you heard from our shop techs today. And Brad as 637 01:03:07,309 --> 01:03:13,909 well. I want to thank you all for tuning in to our roundtable with the shop episode. As I said, one of 638 01:03:13,909 --> 01:03:19,549 my favorite episodes. Every single time we get to do it, I've got a soft spot for these guys in the 639 01:03:19,549 --> 01:03:25,149 shop. I feel like they are the offensive linemen of the trucking industry. They are the unsung 640 01:03:25,150 --> 01:03:31,869 heroes. Without them, we could not do the job safely or at all when you really think about it. 641 01:03:31,870 --> 01:03:36,870 So thanks for tuning in today. Remember that if you have any suggestions for something you'd like 642 01:03:36,870 --> 01:03:41,429 to hear on the show, or if you'd like to come on the show as a guest, please head on over to 643 01:03:41,470 --> 01:03:48,309 podcast.bulktransit.com and send me an email. Stay safe out there, bulk and spur. We'll be 644 01:03:48,310 --> 01:03:54,589 back next week with a brand new hour of content for you, 5 a.m. local time on Wednesday. 645 01:03:56,870 --> 01:04:02,669 And that's all she blows for today's episode of Always Pneumatic, Never Static. Your number one and 646 01:04:02,669 --> 01:04:08,589 probably only Pneumatic Trucking podcast, brought to you by Bulk Transit. Thanks for rolling with us 647 01:04:08,590 --> 01:04:13,389 today. Till next time, stay safe, keep those lines clear and keep it pumping.