Women in trucking are reshaping the industry one load at a time, and Stephanie Evans is proof. On this episode of Always Pneumatic, Never Static, host Marcus Bridges sits down with Bulk Transit driver Stephanie Evans for one of the show's most honest and inspiring conversations the show has delivered. Stephanie talks about entering a male-dominated industry when the people closest to her didn’t believe she could pull it off, and she walks you through exactly what it took to prove them wrong. If you're a pro driver who's ever had to earn a seat at the table, this one will hit home. For the women in trucking who are just getting started or thinking about making the jump, Stephanie’s story is the kind that sticks with you. Marcus and Stephanie also close the episode out with some Would You Rather questions and a lightning round that shows exactly who she is when she lets her guard down. New episodes of Always Pneumatic, Never Static drop every Wednesday at podcast.bulktransit.com.
Picture this: it is dark, it is freezing, and a car has gone off the road and into a water-filled ravine. Stephanie Evans was on her way to pick up a load when she stopped, waded waist-deep into that freezing water, and helped a stranger get out alive. That story alone would make for a great episode. But it is not even close to the most remarkable thing about her. This week on Always Pneumatic, Never Static, host Marcus Bridges sits down with Bulk driver Stephanie Evans for a driver spotlight that goes deep on where she came from, what it took to get here, and where she is determined to go. Stephanie did not get her driver’s license until she was 36. She had never driven a standard in her life. And she had a whole world of people telling her she could not pull it off. She did. And she is just getting started.
Episode Highlights
She stopped for a stranger in a flooded ravine. Coming out of Oak Hill on a cold November morning, Stephanie spotted headlights in a ditch. She stopped the truck, called 911, and waded waist-deep into freezing water to help a man escape a sinking car. She adds a note for other drivers: call for help, but do not make a habit of stopping for strangers on the road. Safety first, always.
No driver’s license until 36. Stephanie had never owned a regular driver’s license before she got her CDL. A county workforce program paid the full $6,000 for school. She could not parallel park a Honda. A few years later she was running coast to coast.
Her trainers at Bulk made all the difference. Stephanie trained with Tim, Greg, and Jeff at the Piketon terminal. Tim was her first trainer and also a first-time trainer himself, which meant he was patient and thorough. Stephanie credits all three with giving her different pieces of the puzzle she needed to become confident behind the wheel.
Fake it till you make it, and then keep learning. Coming from years in a dry van, Stephanie was not ready for clogged pneumatic lines and getting covered in product dust in the field. She says she still learns something new every day, including a recent first-time carbon haul she describes as a full-body carbon bath.
“Put your mask on first.” When Marcus asks how Stephanie handles being a woman in a male-dominated industry, she breaks it down with a simple philosophy: you put the oxygen mask on yourself before you help anyone else. Take care of yourself, hold your ground, handle your business, and then you are in a position to help the people around you.
Safety tips for women on the road. Stephanie shares practical rules she lives by: park in pairs near other trucks, stay in the cab at night no matter what, and know which truck stops to avoid. She makes clear this is not just a gender issue. It is a situational awareness issue for any driver.
Everyone in her life told her not to do it. When Stephanie decided to go into trucking, the people around her told her it was a bad idea. Every single one of them. She did it anyway. She says the shift happened when she started making real, legitimate money for the first time in her life and decided to save it instead of spend it.
Her reason for all of it: her kids. Stephanie has five children ranging from eight years old to young adults. She is building toward getting her youngest daughters into a paid-off house before they go to college, using the equity to buy the next property, and breaking a cycle of generational poverty one mile at a time.
Would You Rather and Lightning Round. Stephanie would rather drive 600 miles straight than make five stops, prefers night driving for the lack of waiting, hates Atlanta traffic more than any city in the country including Los Angeles, keeps herself company with podcasts and audiobooks on the road, and the first thing she does when she gets home is get in the shower.
Final shout-outs. Stephanie closes the episode with a shout-out she said she missed the last time she was on the show: Chris and Tommy in the maintenance garage at Bulk. She says without them keeping the trucks on the road, none of this happens.
From The Host
“Stephanie said something in this episode that I keep coming back to. She talked about putting your mask on first before you help anyone else. That hit me differently when I think about everything she has been through to get to where she is. She did not come from a family of truckers. She did not have a network. She had a county program, a will to change her life, and trainers who believed in her. That is it. And she turned that into a career, a purpose, and a plan to build something real for her kids. This one is going to stay with me for a while. I hope it does the same for you.” — Marcus Bridges, Host
Transcript
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Picture this. It's the middle of winter. It's dark outside. You're traveling down a lonely two lane
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road. And you notice something strange off to the side. Headlights. Not on the road, not
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on the shoulder. Down in a ditch. You stop to investigate. And you find a car that's gone off
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the road, down into a ravine and into freezing cold water. There's somebody inside. The water is
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rising around the vehicle and that person is desperately trying to get out. What do you do?
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Well, for Stephanie Evans, that wasn't a hypothetical question. It was just another morning
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on the job. Before it was over, Stephanie would find herself waist deep in freezing water trying
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to help a complete stranger escape a potentially deadly situation. But here's the thing that's not
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even the most remarkable part of Stephanie's story, because this is a woman who didn't get her
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driver's license until she was 36. A woman who couldn't believe she'd passed her CDL test. A
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woman who will tell you herself that when she first started hauling pneumatic trailers, there
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were moments when she wondered what in the world she got herself into. And a woman who spent a good
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portion of her life hearing people tell her what she couldn't do. But somewhere along the way,
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Stephanie figured something out. She didn't need everyone else's approval. She didn't need to prove
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she belonged to anyone but herself. She needed an opportunity. She needed the willingness to learn.
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And she needed a reason to keep going when things got difficult. And as you're going to hear a
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little bit later in this episode, she's got one heck of a reason. Because for Stephanie, trucking
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isn't just about hauling freight, making miles, or bringing home a paycheck. It's about changing the
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trajectory of a family. It's about creating opportunities for her children that maybe she
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didn't necessarily have herself. It's about building something that will still be there long
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after she's parked the truck for the final time. Today on always pneumatic, never static. We're
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spending some time with Stephanie Evans talking about the lessons she's learned, the challenges
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she's faced, and the remarkable places this career has taken her. We'll talk about what it's like
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being a woman in a male dominated industry, the importance of the people who help us along the
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way, and will have a little fun getting to know the woman behind the wheel. But more than anything,
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we're talking about what happens when somebody decides that the circumstances they came from
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aren't going to determine the future they're headed toward. And that, my friends, is a story
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worth hearing. This is always pneumatic, never static. Let's roll.
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You are listening to always pneumatic, never static. The Totally Pressurized podcast, brought to
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you by Bulk transit, where we keep the lines clear, the tanks empty, and the conversation anything but
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dry. Whether you're running powder, pellets or anything in between. Pull up a seat, crack the
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windows and let's hit it. How's it going out there? Balkan Spur? Welcome into
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another episode of Always Pneumatic, Never static. I'm your host, Marcus. Thank you so much for being
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here with me today. Uh, very important stuff to tell you guys about the podcast itself here.
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Before we get into our chat with Stephanie Evans, uh, Bulk Driver. And let me tell you what a
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fantastic interview that was. I'm going to leave plenty of time for it today because it did run a
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little bit long, but that's okay. I'm never going to cut it off when we're cooking with gas at such
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a clip. So understand that the intro of the outro, they might be a little shorter today. That's
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because we got to spend a lot of time with Stephanie and what a great time it was. So the
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important thing I need to tell you, as always, you're going to hear me mention our awesome
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website. My guy Tyler has that thing looking so clean and you could find it by going to
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podcast.bulktrasit.com. That's where all of our episodes are at. We've got descriptions of every
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episode. We've got the drivers or the staff members that are joining us on that episode and
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what we're talking about. You can play them right there from the web page. You can also listen to us
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on your favorite podcast platform. If you're a Spotify person, we're there as well. Do me a favor
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what we do here. Some people are going to like it. Some people are not going to like it. We hope more
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you've got something that you want to hear on the show, we're always taking those suggestions and
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putting them up on our board, getting them approved by the powers that be and then hopefully
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turning them into an episode. So definitely, um, check out the website. It's a really good resource
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to have. It's like this podcast would not be what it is without that landing page, so I always want
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to give it its just due. And also want to remind you guys that the quiz that comes with this
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episode, and every episode that we put out, is your entry into our drawing. For a
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$400 Amazon gift card. We will be giving that away sometime soon, so you need to make sure and get
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your entries in. I'm not just saying this stuff to hear myself say it, for God's sakes. I've looked
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into this camera and spoken into this microphone for 35 episodes already. I don't need to hear
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myself say anything else. Um, trust me, with the six inches between my ears and the way that thing up
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there runs, I'm always talking. Whether or not you're hearing it or not. This isn't just lip
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service, though. I want everybody to have a shot at this $400 gift card. I know $400
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isn't called generational wealth. Okay, I know that $400 isn't going to magically get you
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out of a tough situation, but $400 can go a long way. And because it's to Amazon,
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it could be literally anything. Look, maybe you're running low on toilet paper like all of us were
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back during Covid. And you want to get a pallet of that stuff shipped to your house? That's fine.
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Maybe it's Christmas presents. Maybe it's groceries. Maybe you got a DIY project that you're
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trying to get done. Maybe it's $400 to that new gaming system you want. Or a new big screen TV to
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watch football on with the family. It doesn't matter. I just want you in that drawing, and all
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It's real simple. Take your quizzes, get them in. Get entered for our drawing. Okay, I already kind
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of set this up a little bit in the cold open, so I'm not going to spend a lot of time belaboring
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this point here. We're joined by Stephanie Evans today. Bulk driver. She's been here about a year.
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Stephanie's been on the show before. Uh, last time I think we had her on, uh, with. I think it was her
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terminal manager, Kelly, if I'm not mistaken. And they had a great back and forth. But I knew after
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that conversation, man, when we get Stephanie back on, I want to just. I want to tell her story a
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little bit more. I want to know what it was that that she was feeling on that first day, that she's
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holding that brand new CDL. I want to know what that first pneumatic load felt like. Uh, felt like.
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I want to know who her trainers were, who brought her up in this game. And I want to know what makes
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her tick behind the scenes. Because one thing I learned about Stephanie last time she was on the
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air is she's everything that a passionate, committed truck driver is. And she really likes
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this job. And it's done some great things for her. So I wanted her to come in here and tell me a
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little bit about that. Now. I'm saving some stuff for the end of the interview too. We're going to
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have a little bit of fun. I've got some would you rather questions for Stephanie. I've got a little
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bit of a lightning round at the end. We made some time for it, so we'll have some fun here. But this
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story, this sort of employee spotlight, if you will, or let's call it a driver spotlight and set it
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apart from the ones we do from the terminal staff, um, is, I think, a little deeper than what we get
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with some of these and, um, just fantastic stuff. Can't thank Stephanie enough, but you're going to
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hear me say that after the interview and for good reason. So I'm out of the way. It's time to get
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Stephanie Evans in here to do a driver spotlight on always pneumatic, never static. Stick around.
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We'll be right back.
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Welcome back in here to always pneumatic, never static. I am joined right now by bulk driver
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Stephanie Evans back on the show. Stephanie, we always appreciate the time with you. Thank you for
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joining us again here on always pneumatic, never static. Yeah. Thank you for having me. Of course. Now,
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uh, one thing that I kind of like to ask drivers every now and then is, where are you at and where
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are you headed right now? I am currently on 65 coming through Kentucky,
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going to one of our shippers in Cincinnati, Ohio. Okay, great. Right there in the heart of the
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country. Um, now, are you on a dedicated route, Stephanie, or are you, you know, fully OTR you're
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kind of grabbing what's out there. What's it look like for you on the day to day? Sometimes it's
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local. Um, it just depends on the product availability or, you know, what's been ordered for
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the week. So sometimes it's local, and then, you know, I'm coming back from Arkansas now
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and, you know, and then, you know, just a couple overnights here and there. Gotcha, gotcha.
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Now, do you have a favorite product to haul? Because recently I've been learning a lot about
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the various, not only the the inner workings of a pneumatic trailer and how all this product
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actually gets loaded and unloaded and the finer points of that. But, you know, recently we've had
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some episodes on the variety of products that bulk hauls, and I wonder if you have a favorite
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among those. Stephanie. I, I do I have two favorite. Okay. So plastic top of the list
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clean. It's, you know, easy to listen to. The places you go are great. Like
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plastic is number one. Okay. Uh, and then my second favorite is because I like
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the, uh, the concrete places we go to. It's hall and fly ash. Are okay. From the energy companies.
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and they are fantastic. Like they treat you really well. They're, you know, easy to unload that. Yeah.
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Fly ash and plastic. So you can, because the fly ash is a little bit less clean than the plastic, I
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assume, just by its nature. But you can put up with that because the facilities are so nice that
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you're going to. The facilities are nice, the people are great, but so fly, fly ash is super easy
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and our trailer libs are great with it. Like it's easy to open and shut the lids on top of the
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trailer as well as it pays really well. Okay, that. Those are the lids
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being easy and the money is why I like fly. Naturally. I don't like the dirt. Coffee, I get it, I
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get it well, and I've heard that that plastic is nice and clean. The facilities are good too. So, uh,
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do you think that it's. That's kind of a standard for bulk drivers, that most of them probably like
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a good plastic load every now and then? No, no. So you some drivers
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don't want to touch plastic at all. And I think it has to do with the unloading The winter months I
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guess would be easier on it, I've just heard. You know, I'm from Pikes and Terminal, so we don't haul
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a lot of plastic unless we're helping another terminal. They're scared to melt it in the pipe. Uh,
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they've never unloaded it before, you know, but. And then you'll get some of the other drivers that
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says, yes, I love plastic. So it varies just on who you talk to. Really? Yeah. It's just a kind of a
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personal preference thing. I get that, I get that. Well, on that note, let's go to the personal
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preference side of of deciding to become a truck driver. Uh, Stephanie, now, um, take me all the way
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back to when you first were holding on to that CDL. Uh, was there some excitement? Were you, uh, were
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you, you know, up for the challenge? I mean, this is a big career decision, of course. And, um, you know,
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getting into hauling pneumatics is also sort of a niche thing. A lot of people come right out of
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school with the CDL, and they might bump docks for a mega carrier for years before they ever find
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themselves working for a company like bulk. Talk to me a little bit about that career path, from
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holding on to that fresh CDL to getting to bulk. Um, how did that go for you and sort of what did
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you learn along the way? Yeah. So I, I couldn't believe that I passed the test, you know,
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because, uh, I did a manual, uh, test. So I don't have any restrictions. I can do the
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the gears and all that. And I never drove a standard in my life. I never thought, hey, I'm gonna
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go out here and and drive this big truck. You know, I can't even parallel park a Honda. And, uh. Yeah,
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I, I fell into it. There was an opportunity through a a local service
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through so to County that they would pay the entirety to do career training. And so
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they paid for me to go to school, which was, you know, about $6,000. They paid all my fuel And
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it was just the easiest one I could look at because they'd pay for you to do anything. You
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know, being an electrician, I was like, I could never do that, you know? But I never imagined in a
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million years that I would drive truck. And I never got my regular driver's license. So I was 36
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years old, so I never even had a driver's license. And then just a few years later, I was driving a
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truck. That was crazy. I've never really been around truckers to know, hey, don't apply to this
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place or don't go there because they're bad news. I just applied to a bunch of things I found
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online in first person. That's where I went, you know, and I was able to have some really
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good trainers become a trainer myself, and I made some really good money with them. You know,
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traveling from, you know, east to west coast, learn all kinds of things about trucking.
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And then it came to, I've made all this money and I've saved it and saved it, not spend it. What am
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I going to do? And you know, I was able to establish myself better there. Um, you know, in the
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area I live in. And I was like, okay, now I want to go home. The money's been great, but there's
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nothing they can offer me that makes me want to stay out because I'm missing everything, right? You
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know, so the desire to be there, I just started it kind of like a phone book. I said kind
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of do. I went through everything, you know, from where I was located and just started spreading
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out, making cold calls to these locations. And I found one in Python. When I
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called the number, I didn't know it was calling Playing City. You know? I just knew it was a they
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had a Python terminal, so I was like called the number and, you know, went through the process
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there. And I got with Tim Cole at well first I met Kelly there in Python. And
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she was like, what? When I walked through the door, I was like, yeah, I need to need this paperwork.
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I've been hired to work there. And she's like, no one told me, you work here, you know? And then I was
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able to go with a trainer. I went with all three trainers. I actually had a rough start there, but
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Tim Cole was so patient with me, I was intimidated. He laughed till he cried, I get
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it. One of our clay places that you know, called clay and it's like dewy in the
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morning. It's kind of dark outside. Creepy. He puts me on the in his harness with it tethered to my
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back, and I was like, yeah, I got this. As soon as I got up there, I was like, I don't got this, don't
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got this, Charlie. And I was like, what was I thinking? I had a good job. Please. He's up on the
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ladder. He's like, just hold on. And so I mean, it was it was a laugh. Yeah, it was, but Tim
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buried right with it. And then I was able to go with Greg for a while. One of our trainers and I
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just learned different things from each and every one of them. I went with Geoff for a little bit,
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and each one of them have a different personality in a way to unload the trailer. I don't I believe
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it was fate that I had a rough start because I when I left my first trainer, I wasn't ready to
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run this trailer. You know what I mean? I just was pretending like, hey, we're just fake it til we
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make it and hope for the best. You know what I mean? But. But that rough start allowed me
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to get some more trailer on the trailer, and it went smooth. I've been with bulk for a year now.
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That's awesome. That's awesome. And yeah, I'm so glad that you've you trained with a couple of
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guys that we've had on this show talking about training, and Greg and Jeff, uh, haven't gotten our
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hooks into Tim yet, but we definitely would like to if he's ever willing to join the show. Tim, if
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you're listening, you got a shout out today, man. That's a that's gotta get you, you know, carrot in
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the stick thing, right. We're shouting you out here on the show. Come on and talk to us about it. Um.
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How important. Funny, too. Hey. That's funny. That's what it sounds like. Stephanie. How important was
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that training in building the confidence? Because you even said it like, hey, I'm fake it til I make
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it. Once I got out of the truck with Tim. Um, but then you got in with Greg and a little bit of
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time with Jeff, and. And did that just continue to build your confidence and continue to kind of let
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you look yourself in the mirror and say, look, I can do this. I just need more practice at it. Yeah.
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So when I got out of the truck with Tim, I just want to clarify, when I got all the truck with Tim,
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I was trained. I was I think I was the first trainee that he had ever had. So he was extra
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thorough, extra patient, all of the things. It was, you know, me trying to memorize all
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this stuff at once. You know, he was saying freaking tastic. Like I would have been fine with,
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you know, that. I don't even know what your question was, but I just wanted to clarify. Tim was
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a very, very good trainer. Yeah. All three of your trainers did a great job with you. I just how how
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long did it take you to kind of build the confidence and get past that, fake it til I make
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it thing and actually feel like you were you were where you should be. I still sometimes fake it.
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Just like I know. No, it took me a few months. I guess where
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I've been babied in a dry van for so long. I wasn't used to. Hey, we've clogged this trailer.
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We're going to get out here and sweat into a puddle and and fight this trailer. Like our lives
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depend on it. Covered in all, every dust imaginable. You know what I mean? You're filthy and sweat, and
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I just. I think that was the hardest part, you know, because I was like, well, I'll just leave it
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clogged and get back in the air, you know? So. Yeah, it was it's
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been a it was been a learning curve. and I learn every day. Like I just took carbon for the first
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time and was able to take a bath in carbon saved for yesterday. So I don't. Know.
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That's a new experience. I'm sure I've never been bathed in carbon before, but I imagine you
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probably want to get in the shower pretty quick after that. Oh, yeah. Uh, the guys out there, they
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were just like, help! I was like, I don't I can't do anything. They were like, stop getting on the
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ground. I was like, the wind is blowing. I don't know what you want me to do, you know? So I wonder,
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you talked about kind of being babied in a box with a box fan for a while. Um, did. You.
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Did you ever have to touch any of the freight that you hauled when you were hauling a box van,
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or was it something that you just bumped a dock and somebody else handled it and you went down
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the road? How did that work out for you at your previous job? So it just depending on who we were
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hauling for like Ulta Beauty or Target or Pepsi. If one of our one of the
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big carriers our loads. If our loads have shifted on a corner, we would get in there and what's
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called a stack of products and you get paid for it. You just take pictures where
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the, you know, pallets have tipped over and you get in there and redo it, but they only did it with
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the Mega one, except for there's a shoe factory. There's an Italian shoemaker in Florida, um, that
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you get in wrap. There's this plastic wrap that goes around the pallet to keep things from
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slipping. Yep. And we get these expensive shoes and shoeboxes, little tiny shoe boxes, and we have to
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wrap them in the plastic. Gross. That's. That sounds tedious. Yeah. I
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learned stuff every single day. Like, it's it's crazy. You think you know everything and you don't.
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Yeah. Yeah. Yep. And it's a this is, uh, such a nuanced, um, I guess just
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industry that we work in, right? I mean, there's so many different things that have to be hauled by a
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truck and you think, okay, that's trucking well, right. But if you zoom in just a little bit, you
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realize that none of those trucks are filled with the same thing. They're all going different
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directions. They're all, uh, you know, different trailers, different equipment, and it really starts
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to pile up. And all of a sudden you realize, man, there's so much about this industry that you
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can't just learn by hauling one type of freight. And that's why you kind of feel, I'm sure, like, I, I
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still am learning something every single day because you just you have to put 30 or 40 years
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on in trucking to say that you've you've seen it. All right, Stephanie. And they still haven't you
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know. And you know, I got there's crazy things that happen that while you're in the truck
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that have nothing to do with trucking. Right. So there's a situation that I, that I never thought,
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you know, I would be a part of, but. So I'm coming out of Oak Hill where we get
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clay. And it was when I first started. It's dark outside. It's cold. It was last year, like
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November, December, I'm not sure, but it's freezing temperatures and it's dark
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outside. Come out of Oak Hill and there's headlights in the ditch. Oh no. You know, someone
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had went over the barrier through the ditch and down like this little bit of ravine. It doesn't
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look like any, you know, the park in the middle of the street or on a back road. I don't know if
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you're familiar with it, but it's a two lane street. And I stopped the truck run back there.
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There's a car down in there. There's someone in live inside of it. I'm calling 901. Um, I'm on the
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phone with 901. I'm trying to get this guy out of here. When I get to him, his window. There's water
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up to the the doors of his vehicle. Oh, no, there's a sunroof is what's saving. But
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he's like 3 or 400 pounds. He's huge. And I'm not trying to be mean or anything. I'm a big girl, but
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I don't know how he made it through that sunroof up out of there. And when I'm trying to grab for
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him, I'm thinking he's going to drown me. I take two steps off of the hill and I am submerged,
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waist deep in freezing cold water. Oh my gosh. Um, trying to get this guy out of this
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vehicle and he's reaching for me. I'm like, he's going to drown me. He's going to drown. It's
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freezing. Pitch black outside him. Like he's going to drown me if I let him grab Ahold of me. He's
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not going to mean to. He's just scared. Right? And so then he falls backwards on this wood that goes
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to his back. And I was like, hold your head above the water, hold your head above the water. And then
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finally I get like my harness out of my bang and try to drag him up the hill. But I was just going
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to Oak Hill to load, you know what I mean? I didn't know I was doing a water rescue this morning. Yeah,
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and thank God you were there because you said it was kind of a lonely two lane back road. Who knows
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when the next person is going to come by at that time? Yeah, I thought for sure it was a dead person
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in the vehicle. You know, by the way it looked, I had called Kelly and I was like, you will never
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imagine what happened to me. I just got done with a whole water rescue. I'm stripping all my clothes
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off in the middle of the cab, in the middle of the street, because I'm soaking wet, and I'm thinking,
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hey, this water's contaminated, you know, because it's stagnant, right? I don't know. Yeah.
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Anyway. Wow. I mean that. Did that change anything about the way that you sort of look at the
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job that you're doing, Stephanie? Because again, like, you're you're a truck driver, you're not a
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first responder, but you sort of acted it. You did what anybody would do there. You tried to help
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somebody who was in a dire situation and thank God you were there. Um, but, I mean, listen, is,
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as a truck driver, you're going to see things like this. You're going to end up pulling up on
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accidents. You're going to see people stranded on the side of the road. Um, I mean, you seem like the
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type of person that's just ready to jump out and help when needed. I imagine that, uh, that that made
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you feel pretty good that you were able to help. But also, you probably had some second thoughts
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because you just told me you thought you might drown out there trying to help this guy. Yeah.
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Because of his weight. Him grabbing Ahold of me? He wouldn't. I don't think he would have meant to, but
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we're on a downhill slant, and he's going to try. He's panicking. He's going to try to do whatever
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he can to get out of here. You know. It's amazing that. What an amazing story. I mean, just and how
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many truck drivers have a story like that that we've just never heard because that's just
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something that they would do because that's the type of person they are. And, uh, a huge pat on the
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back from all of us here at Always pneumatic, never static. Stephanie. What a what a crazy story.
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And thank you for telling it. Do you do you think about that often out there on the road? No. And
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there's only one other time that I've ever helped them, so I do not recommend stopping and helping.
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That is not a good idea, and I wouldn't recommend that for any of our drivers. It seems like you
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want to help, but you're going to get on your tablet and send a message, or you're going to get
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on your phone, get on your CB radio, get someone else out there. Don't just be
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randomly stopping for people. I've only stopped one other time that some guy was hauling a boat
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that was completely engulfed in flames. And you know, I use my extinguisher on him. But no,
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you not get out of your truck. Yeah, I think that's really good advice. I think Tim Hamilton would
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love to hear you say that, because it opens up a whole other box of of worms that could end up in
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a really bad spot. You know, if you park the truck and maybe it's not in a safe place to park and
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you get out, you could put yourself in a lot of danger right there, can't you? And not just that
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you get, you know, people, you know, everyone has different backgrounds and, uh, different beliefs
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and value systems or mental health issues and things of that nature. You're not going to just
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approach these people while driving across the country and assume that
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they're in a place to just, you know, oh, thanks for the help. You don't know what they're going to do.
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You don't know if they're out to to harm you to, you know, do you have no idea. Just just don't
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stop for people on the side of the road. Yeah. Yeah. So it's it's not bad advice at all, Stephanie. And
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definitely you can hear the experiences that you've had when you're talking about that kind of
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come through. You've you've learned these lessons even though this was something that you did you
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The lesson that you took from it is I. I'm probably going to just be trying to get Ahold of
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emergency services and get the appropriate people out here to take care of this, rather than try to
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be superwoman. Right? Yeah, absolutely. 100%. And you never know to there's another thing that's
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become a part of sort of American culture and and it it sucks, but it is part of where we live. And
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it's people are very litigious. Right. You never know when somebody is going to sue you because
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you tried to help them. We've heard stories like that before. Um, and they always are incredibly
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backwards. You think, what are you doing? This person might have saved your life and now you're
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suing them. But, hey, everybody's looking for a quick buck out here, and everybody thinks that if
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they can get a leg up by, you know, winning a big verdict, then all of a sudden life changes for me.
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So all of these things. I've never heard of that one. Oh, sorry. I didn't mean to interrupt you, but
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I've never heard of that one. Well, I want to talk and kind of turn and and again, thank you for
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telling us that story and great advice there that you've given the other drivers to pull from,
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because I'm betting that very few of them have pulled somebody out of a possible drowning
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situation. So it's important to talk about not only the situation itself, but what you learned
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from it and how you approach your day to day based on what you learn. I want to talk to you a
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little bit about, and before I even get into this, I want to say the reason we're not going to spend
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a huge amount of time on this is because I don't think it's the most important part. I don't think
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it's the most interesting part of Stephanie's story, but it is sort of the elephant in the room.
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Okay. Um, okay. And the elephant in the room here is is being a woman in such a male
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dominated industry. Stephanie and I wonder, um, when you first got into this, were you
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intimidated at all by the fact that this is a predominantly male industry? Did you get any looks?
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Uh, did did people maybe think that you. You weren't cut out for the job, or did you not deal
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with any of that? Because I've heard both sides of the story. When I talk to women in trucking, some
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of them will say, hey, they took me under my under their wing. Nobody ever doubted me. And then some
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of them will say, I thought I was going to have to scratch and claw for my entire career in this
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industry. So how did it set up for you, Stephanie? So in the beginning, when I first
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came to trucking, I just didn't. I'm just going to be honest, okay. Like it might not. It sounds
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bad, but it's the truth. So when I first got into trucking and had no clue what I was doing, and
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they're out there trying to, like, bully me or get their ways or whatever, you know, I would just
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either play stupid or be manipulated like, oh my gosh, can you help me? And you'll always find a
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trucker anywhere you go. If these truckers are out there, they're want to talk. They want to talk your
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leg off. You know what I mean? Yep. So they're like, oh, I'll help you, honey. Yeah. I'm just like, yeah,
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I'm just being manipulative. You know, I would know what's going on. I let them if I could do it for
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me, you know, I don't care, you know? And then, um, where I have
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been. So I'm way and I'm. I don't know how to put this. I'm way more masculine than
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I should be. I'm not. I love men. Don't get me wrong. I'm not in no chicks or nothing. But, um,
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as far as, like, how I carry myself, and it's just being independent and having to do it myself
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because there's no one else there. Mhm. So I don't let them push over me, I do not, I
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will hold my ground and do what I gotta do and handle my business. And in the back of my mind I,
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the thing that I always remember that stuck with me is you always put the mask on yourself
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first. Oh, that's a good point. And that is, you know, don't tell you on an airplane if you are, if you
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have someone with you that's not able to do it, but the mask on yourself first. And when I
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approach any situation really in life. Um, my my first thought is, how am I going to get through
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this and make it the best I could for myself? And if I could help someone along the way, that's fine.
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But. But I'll push right through every one of them. Excuse me. Excuse me sir. You know. Yeah.
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No, I and I think that's a really good philosophy, Stephanie. And I don't think anybody has ever said
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it to me like that before. I've talked to thousands of truck drivers and thousands of other
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people outside of my work in the trucking industry, and I've never had anybody frame it like
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that. Put the mask on yourself first. And, you know, there's a reason behind that, right? They tell you
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that on the airplane because, hey, if we're losing oxygen and you're trying to put somebody else's
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mask on that can't help themselves, and then you pass out because you don't have any oxygen. Well,
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now there's two of you that don't have any oxygen because you didn't put the mask on yourself first.
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So what you're talking about there is like, look, I have to be prepared. I have to be ready for any
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eventuality. And after I make sure I'm ready for any eventuality, that will free me up to maybe
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help somebody else that might need help. Yeah. So being in the male dominated industry, you're going
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to get some some guys that do not care that you're a woman. They do not care. They.
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Absolutely. If there was no witnesses, they'd probably do something bad to you. Like they are
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some. I've met some great men out here, you know, and women do. It's their thing. But there are some
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very dangerous men out here as well. And. And I've been unfortunate enough to run across quite a
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bit of those, you know, that aren't so pleasant, you know, and you just have to
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be safe about what you're doing. And don't always think that a camera or you having a big truck
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is going to protect you. But, you know, you get to the shippers or the receivers, you're a little bit
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safer. There's someone there. You know, I don't really know how to put it, but don't be
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intimidated just because of your, uh, anatomy or I guess I thought that was called
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anatomy to to go ahead and to get your money, girl, and go, you know
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it. I that's the best I could do. I don't know. No, I think that's a great answer. And and you're right,
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because, listen, there's a lot of, there's some truck stops out there across this country,
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Stephanie, that I know plenty of men that won't go to. They'll say, like, listen, I've marked that one
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on my map. I know that it's a skip for me because I don't trust it. There's bad stuff that happens
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there all the time. And your your gender, your sex is not going to determine whether or not
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something bad happens to you or something doesn't. It's the opportunity that these people that are
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going to do bad things. They're looking for opportunity, and you just never know when they're
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going to see an opportunity in you. So, uh, having your head on a swivel, always being aware of your
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surroundings, especially as a female in a male dominated industry, is a very important aspect of
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the job. Stephanie. And I think that the fact that you're thinking about that each day is, is, uh, I
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mean, hats off to you because I'm sure sometimes people can get complacent or, hey, I really need to
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stop. I'm hungry. I'm gonna go to this truck stop, even though I've sworn never to go back there. And
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you never know. That could be the time that something happens. So it's it's it's good to think
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about, isn't it? Yeah. So I just switching gears from the male dominated
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industry, um, into this about truck stop parking alone. You're always going to park in pairs
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where there's another, you know, human being, there's another truck or whatever. Don't get
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somewhere and think, oh, it's nice and quiet. I won't have to hear nothing and I park in pairs.
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Park with other trucks. I do not get on my truck at night. If it is nighttime, I am not getting out
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of my truck. I do not care. It might be, you know, the right next to the house, the rest area. I
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am not getting out of my vehicle at night for nothing. I do not care if someone's knocking. Not
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any of that. That's really good advice. I love the parking pairs thing. Use the buddy system there.
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Because you're right. It's like I might lose a little bit of sleep because the pair that I had
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to park with is a reefer tonight. But I'd rather be safe than sorry. Yeah. 100. And that's not just
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for your for your personal safety is. You know, I had a situation where I think it was like a bad
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alternator or something, and my, uh, batteries kept being drained or my batteries have been getting
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cold. I'm not sure what it was, but when I would go somewhere, I had an optimized idle where it would
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turn the truck off and on by itself. And by morning Comment. The truck wouldn't start. So there
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you are. You're 20 miles off in some random parking lot with not no one to see. You can't do
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anything. You're you're, you know, stuck. If you decide another truck, you could go jump that
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situation. And were you able to get a jump in that situation when your battery went dead? No. Okay. No.
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Have someone boots on and get to walking. See okay. So lesson learned, right? Lesson learn.
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Yeah. Yeah. Parking pairs always. Well, just sort of back to, uh, the the being
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a woman in this industry part, I do want to ask you this because I want to give you a chance to
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tell a great story if you have one. Um, have you ever had the satisfaction, Stephanie, of proving
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somebody wrong who underestimated you? Maybe just because you were a woman in this job. Um,
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because, you know, that's that's another thing. Okay. Go ahead, I don't. Everyone in my whole
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entire life, in and outside of trucking. What do you mean? And obviously, I can tell that
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makes you feel good to prove these people wrong. That that is satisfaction for you, right? I mean,
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now as an afterthought. But in the moment, I was just like, you know, I gotta change my life
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somehow. And I can't work at Burger King and expect there to be a good deal come out of this.
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But now I would have never imagined that, like in a million years, I don't know how I, you know,
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became a trucker and got into this, but whatever happened, my life completely turned around.
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I don't know, it proved everyone wrong. Well that's great. Even when I was going going to do it, they
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were all just like, you were so stupid. Why would you do that? Don't you ever do. And then I've had
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it the whole entire time with every single decision. And it turned out great. Well, I think
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that I think that deserves a round of applause if you want my honest opinion. Because listen, if
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you're not getting the the support and you're, you're, you're kind of fighting in the face of
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everybody that you're talking to about your decision. They're telling you it's the wrong
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decision. You can second guess yourself, and that can cause you to not approach this opportunity
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with the same vigor. But you didn't let that. You didn't let that get on you, Stephanie. You just
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like you said, you put your mask on first and you you pushed right through. And and here we are
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today. So I that's where the round of applause comes from me. Because I think that I happen to be
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one of those people. Maybe this is a function of the job that I've chosen as a career, but I I've
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always wanted everybody in the room to like me. And if somebody doesn't like the decision that
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I've made, it's not I don't just take that as well. That's their problem and I'll move on. I can let
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that eat at me sometimes. And it doesn't sound like it bothers you at all. And I am. I'm very
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impressed and also a little envious if you want my honest opinion. I think that's a great mindset.
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Stephanie. It actually was. It was a forced, uh, thing because it used to be like that. And then
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I started, I think it shifted when I started making more money than I had ever seen in my
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lifetime. That was legal, you know, legitimate money. And I was like, what am I going to do with it? Am I
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going to buy it? It rounds back to people like you said. I'm going to buy tennis shoes and
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fingernails and eyelashes like the other girls do. And, you know, uh, do all this. And I was like, no,
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I'm going to save my money and buy a car, and I'm going to buy a house and I'm going to, you know,
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those were the focuses. I'm going to invest in an IRA. I wasn't thinking about. I didn't care what
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my stuff was like. I just started like. And I think that's where it shifted at whenever I was like, I
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am not going to buy in a new outfit. I work all the time. I do not care what anyone thinks about
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these clothes because I have brand new furniture. You know what I mean? Like I didn't care. Yeah. And
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that's where it shifted. It completely shifted theirs. Like, I do not care what they think, because
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I'm going to do what I need to do regardless. That's great. Well, here's the question that I had
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left behind a little bit earlier, that now that we're kind of talking about a little bit of life
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outside of trucking. Uh, talk to me a little bit about what you're passionate about, Stephanie.
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Outside of trucking, obviously, you just kind of talked about, you know, building a life, having a
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home, having a car, that type of thing. Uh, but but what are some of the things that really make
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Stephanie tick when the truck's not moving down the road? I guess Future dream is ensuring
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that it's not even to do with me, really ensuring that my kids are
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able to have careers and lives and things of that nature
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irregardless of, you know, what's going on around them. I don't know. Their development
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is my main goal. You want to give them maybe a better. A better upbringing than what? Maybe you
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had. And you know, we haven't. We don't have to talk about that part of it. But. So no, I don't really
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have an upgrade. I have adult children. You know, my I only have two that I guess would stay
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little. I only have the one that's little. Little. Um, she'll be nine in January, and.
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Yeah, she's my 100%, you know, focus towards her, too. Every mistake I ever made with the
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older ones, I can fix that with her. Hopefully, you know, or at least try. Right. And then I
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have all my other kids. They have their own jobs. They, you know, three of them are complete adults.
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And then I have one that's going to be 17 and a 14 year old. Wow. So lots of different stages of
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life that they're going through right now. And and you're you're a dedicated mom. I think that's
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that's exactly what I was hoping to get to, is, you know what makes you tick? When I asked that
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question to parents, that's almost always the answer that I get is my kids and and just get, you
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know, making sure that my kids have everything that they need that I can provide them with and
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making sure that they're safe and making sure that they have a roof over their head and food on
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their plate. That's one hell of a motivator. Stephanie, I can't lie to you. I don't have kids.
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I'm a different I'm sorry to interrupt you. I it's a different kind of parenting. And I'm just going
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to and I'm going to say that, to be honest, where I've came from to now is way better as far
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as the day to day being with them. But my my children are cared for,
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even my little one. She stays with her dad. Two of them that's 17 and 14 is with my with my mother,
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their grandmother. And they are amazing humans. But there's no way I could be a trucker and be there
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to take him to cheerleading practice. Right. You know what I mean? So I don't want to take that
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credit from their grandparents or their father that are amazing people that have have done
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that. My I guess my role as a parent in the protective sense is
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to place my children with the people that I knew they were going to be safe and cared for. And and
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anytime I'm able to get out of the truck and be with them, that's a win. But I come from
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generational poverty. There's no way I can have one or the other. I can live in poverty
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and never have nothing and be right beside them and drag them right through it with me. Or I can
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make the choice to say, okay, I'm going to do this now. But at the end of this, they're going to
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be homeowners. They're going to have life insurance policies and trust funds and all of
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that. So they could be different in the future. I wish I was there to fix their hair for school
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every morning and and do those things. But my I guess me being a parent has
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been making the best decision for my child's future and placing with people that I
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knew was going to guide them the the way I would want. That's amazing. That's and
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just the the amount of of humbleness that you have to have in your, in your heart and in your
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head, Stephanie, to put all the credit with you. You know, the kid's dad and your, your mother, their
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grandmother that really says something to you because you're not out here trying to take the
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credit for it. You want the credit where credit is due, but you're also doing your part, and it's a
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big part. And you you make that time for your kids. When you can make that time for them, then
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everybody knows that sort of part of the job that trucking entails is like, you're going to be gone.
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You're going to miss some things. It's it's the story of every truck driver that I've ever spoken
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to. Stephanie. Yeah. And I didn't know how. I guess if I would have had some
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normal relationship to in some household or a local routing. Things would have been different.
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You know, it would have. It would have been a two people situation. Uh, you know, husband and wife or
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things of that nature. But since it's just me and, you know, I the only way to change their
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future and it is to stay gone. Really. But I don't even know how
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I got into that. I guess it's talking about the kids somehow. No, it's. What motivates me outside
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the truck. Yeah. Oh, and oh. Real estate. So the goal is, is to have this
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house fixed up, and then I'm gonna put my 14 year old daughter and my eight year old daughter.
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They'll be older, obviously, in that house where they don't have to pay for housing during college
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and, uh, and then use that equity to buy another property that they're banned from. Give me a deep,
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you know, in-ground pool somewhere. I like it, so buy that by that second house
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and making sure that the little baby it has. You know, every mistake I made with the older one,
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she's able to. To benefit from my learning curve there. Absolutely fantastic stuff there, Stephanie.
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I know that we got that those those questions always when I ask somebody about, you know, what's
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the motivation if they get to talking about their family, we always end up digging a little deeper.
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And that's where the passion and and the commitment to those things really shows. And and I
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thank you for that. I know it's not always easy to talk to some random dude in Eugene about deep
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stuff, but that was really good. And that's exactly what I was hoping to get. I know that you're
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dedicated to to those kids and giving them the best life that you can, and I'm super happy to
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hear that it's working out so well and all. I'm all I'm going to say is if you get that big
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in-ground pool, you deserve it. Okay. That's that's the tall and the short of it. So. Um. Yeah. Great
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stuff there. All right, let's have a little bit of fun as we start to wrap this up. Not that this
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hasn't been a fun conversation from start to finish, but I always save some of the fun stuff
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for last. And I want to. I've got a little bit of a lightning round here and I've got a few. Would you
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rather be here for you, Stephanie? That should just be fun. Okay. And they're going to deal with truck
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driving. So it's going to be something that, you know. Um. All right. So let me let me start out here
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with some life behind the wheel stuff. Uh, as far as would you rather would you rather drive 600
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miles in a day with almost no stops, or drive 300 miles in a day with 4 or 5
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stops along the way? 600. You like to keep that door shut, don't you? Yeah. One of
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the. Yeah, I like it. I guess it would depend on the money on the. On the end of it really I would do
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the three. It depends on which one paid more. Gotcha. That's. Hey, that's what we're looking for
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here. Perfect answer. Uh, would you rather run the same route every week and know exactly what to
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expect, or go somewhere different each time you get in the truck? For the most part, I, I don't know,
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I don't know. That was a hard one. So I would like to do the same thing in theory, but I
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get bored easy. Okay, so so maybe. Going home every night I would do the same thing every. Day. Okay.
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Gotcha. See, there's important caveats here. We got. That's exactly what we're looking for. Um, okay.
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Would you rather drive overnight when the traffic is light or during the day when everything is
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open and the world is actually turned on. Night. Nighttime? Is that a traffic thing or or do
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you just enjoy driving at night more? What's what's behind that decision? Stephanie, you don't
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have to wait on anything. You don't have to wait for showers. You don't have to wait for fuel. You
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don't have to wait at the weight station. You don't have to wait. It's nothing. And a lot of it.
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Yeah. A lot of this out here is waiting. Right, right, I hear you. Okay. One last one here, and then
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we'll get to a lightning round. Uh, would you rather deal with heavy traffic in a major city or
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a two lane highway with no passing opportunities and maybe nothing? No stops for miles.
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You like the back roads? Something about that. What I'm getting here is that the more people that are
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involved in your route, uh, the less you're going to enjoy getting from point A to point B. I enjoy
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it either way. I love Dragon, but, uh, I'm more thinking about my clock than anything. Like, I
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don't want them to run my clock out. I got. You, I want them to get out of the way. Yeah, you know, I
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gotcha. I there's not really too many drivers that I've asked that question to that have said, give
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me the heavy traffic at a major city. So you're right down the middle for drivers with that one.
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Stephanie, I think that, uh, you know, as long as you're not on some gravel goat trail, uh, heading
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up the side of a mountain with no way to turn around, I think that everybody prefers, you know,
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paved and striped and all that, but nobody really likes to get, like, deep into Chicago during rush
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hour. Right. Nobody wants that. No. All right. Lightning around here. Uh, because I know you. You
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told me earlier, for your last job, you were going coast to coast. Uh, and and you've seen a lot of
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this country via the job. Stephanie. What's your favorite state to drive in that you've
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experienced thus far? Oh, that's hard. That's hard. They all have
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so many great qualities. Oh my goodness. Uh, I think I had the most fun in
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Florida. Oh, Florida. Okay, so you like the sunny, uh, the little bit of sunny weather down there? Uh, you
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know, mild temperatures, but still warm enough to to wear short sleeved shirt and get out and get a
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little vitamin D in your life. So that was just because where I was able to get out of the truck
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and, you know, be at the Everglades and stuff like that, it wasn't really the route. Okay. So you like
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to. If I had to. Yeah. Because it was driving. I'd like to go through New Mexico. Arizona because
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it's just straight shot down then. Yeah. To the desert. Like you're getting money out there? Yeah.
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Experience with Florida? Yeah. Okay. Got it. All right, so on the flip side of that coin, least
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favorite state to drive in. And you can say California because that's like 49 out of 50
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drivers will say California. But I don't know how much you make it out there. So what's your least
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favorite state to drive in? Least favorite state? I can narrow it down to city. Okay. That's
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fine. Atlanta. That is another. One. Favorite. Yep. Least favorite. It's if they're not going to. Say
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California is really bad too. Um, I think Atlanta is worse than than LA. You know,
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if if people don't say California. They say Atlanta. And that's kind of the same on the flip
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side there. And I think that one thing that is a little bit different about them, at least from
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drivers I've spoken to, is that California is tough as an entire state. There's a lot of red
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tape. There's speed limits that are different. There's a lot of highway patrol out there. Um, and
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also diesel is like $8 a gallon out there right now. That's an important. One. Yeah. So none of that
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bothered me. And in California, what what's hard is if you're in the big cities in California, you
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have to know how to parallel park bumper to bumper with these passenger vehicles because
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you're going to park on the street. You're not going to a truck stop, I promise you. God. You're
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you're just regular parking. But I would rather out of like, I hate Atlanta. I would rather
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drive in Manhattan during rush hour across the George Washington Bridge than go to Atlanta.
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I promise you I'll hate it where it says anything. You are in good company? You're in good company.
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Just know that when your next time you're down in Atlanta and you look over and see another driver
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driving a truck, he also hates being there, I promise you that because. Oh, yeah. There we go. Yeah,
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I've heard it so many times. Okay, I got just a couple more for you, and then I'm gonna let you
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get back to it. Uh, when you're out there putting Miles on. Is it music? Is it podcasts? Like always
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pneumatic, never static. Is it audiobooks or is it silence for you? What do you like to listen to
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when you're rolling? Um, it'll be podcasts or, um, audiobooks, things of that nature.
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Okay. And, and any good podcasts that you can turn the listeners onto that you're really liking
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right now. Besides this one, of course. Always pneumatic, never static. Right here, baby.
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No, just, uh, whatever pops up when I do the search. Okay. So you pretty much. You kind of like the
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variety. I mean, there's so many different avenues that you can go down when you just say podcasts,
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all right? People are talking about everything. So you just kind of like a little variety in your
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life. It sounds like. Yeah. Okay. All right. Last one I've got for you. What's the very first thing
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Stephanie Evans does when she gets home? Take everything out of my truck. Uh, okay. When I
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get home. In the door? Yeah, in the door. I get in the shower. First thing I kind of knew, that was
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where it was going to go. Because, you know, we talked about, uh, taking a carbon bath earlier in
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this conversation. So that's where I would be. Stephanie, for sure, is right into the shower. And,
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uh, I figured that would be it for you. And let me tell you, that shower is probably the best one you
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take all week, isn't it? Every time you get through that door at home, you're showering in your own
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bathroom. Absolutely, I love it, I love it. Well, Stephanie, this has been awesome. I really
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appreciate you coming on here and playing ball with me. Sometimes it's a little tough when you're
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the only one in the room, but you did absolutely phenomenal today. Uh, just killed it. Just like you
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are out there for bulk every single day, and we greatly appreciate the time. Uh, do you have any
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final thoughts for us before we let you get back to it? This can be shout outs to friends or family.
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Uh, you know, shout outs to to any of your crew that you want to mention or anything that we left
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on the table that you wanted to mention. Before we get out of here, the floor is yours. Thank you so
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much for the time today, Stephanie. Yeah. So I do want to give a shout out. And I felt bad the last
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time I was on your podcast. I didn't mention this to Chris and Tommy. Um, in the maintenance,
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uh, in the garage. Yeah, they without them, uh, you know, because I, I did mention everyone else, you
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know, uh, Kelly and the trainers and things, but, um, I did not mention them, and. Yeah. So I just wanted
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to say thank you, Chris. Thank you, Tommy, for for keeping our trucks on the road. I appreciate it.
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Great work there. And a huge shout out to everyone all the way across the maintenance department
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here at Bulk and Spur because those guys are kind of the unsung heroes of the entire thing, aren't
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they? Stephanie, if it wasn't for them, nobody would be out here rolling. Right? Right. Absolutely.
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Stephanie Evans, it's been a pleasure. Thank you so much. We will get you back on it sometime in the
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future. I'm sure if you'll have us, we'll definitely have you. You be safe out there, okay?
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All right. Bye bye.
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Yeah, yeah. She deserved a second round of applause for that one. Uh, just want to say thanks again to
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Stephanie Evans for coming in here and playing ball with me today. Um, it's not always easy to
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open up like that, okay? And some people will never do that on a podcast. They will never
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get that personal, that intimate with the way that they approach things and and tell the stories
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that Stephanie told, and we appreciate her greatly for that, because that's what makes this podcast,
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and I understand it's not for everybody. But if you heard that and you thought, man, I it would be
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really cool to tell my story. Well, all you have to do is send me an email. Talk to anybody that's
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talk to me on this podcast. They will have my phone number and they will give it to you. And you
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can send me a text or call me. I'm good for it. I always want to welcome as many of you guys in
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here as possible. And uh, Stephanie, she was so awesome through the entire process. We had a
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recording scheduled. Some stuff got messed up the whole time. Stephanie was just right there
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answering my calls and texts saying, hey, whatever you need, whenever it works for you, we'll make it
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work. And she did. And that right there, I think, sort of brings full circle the attitude that
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Stephanie has towards the job and towards life in general. Um, just a couple reflection points from
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the interview that I thought were so cool. Uh, put on your mask first. I've never. I said this in the
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interview. I've never had anybody say it to me like that before. I understand the, uh, the thought
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process behind it. Okay? And I've had people talk about it in different ways. But the way that
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Stephanie approaches it, put on your mask first and then you'll be available to help others once
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you get that done. And she's used that adage, she's thought about that and she's made a career out of
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putting her mask on first. It's not selfish. It's not self-centered. It's how we all have to be. You
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hear a lot of people say, look out for number one. And what are they saying? Well, look out for
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yourself. Think about the man in the mirror, right? Yeah, but it's hard to do sometimes. It's hard. Uh,
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just by the nature of the job. You've got so many moving parts in trucking and especially
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in pneumatics. And then you add to that you've got shippers, you've got receivers. There's a customer
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service aspect that goes in there, The safety aspect is obviously the big overarching thing. Uh,
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that kind of shit. I don't want to say cast a shadow over all this because that's a negative
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thing. But it it kind of hangs over the top of all of it and is the most important part. And with
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that, you've got to worry about other drivers on the road, traffic, construction accidents, you name
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it. There's always something else to think about there. So it can be hard to make sure to look out
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for the man in the mirror or the woman in the mirror, as I should say. In this case, um, every day.
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And I think that myself especially, I really benefit from talking to a person like Stephanie
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that has that attitude, because I walk around a lot of time thinking, don't make a dent in anybody
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else's day. And I think that that's just anxiety rearing its head. Uh, most people, if you were to
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just randomly sample a hundred people out of, let's say, any population and ask them about
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yourself and what they know about you and what they've learned about you by maybe interacting
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with you a few times in their entire life. What you'll find is they'll say, I know nothing about
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that guy. I don't remember what he looks like. I don't remember what he sounds like. I don't
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remember what happened and what interaction we had that would have turned me on or off to that
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person. That's the reality of it. But it doesn't seem like the reality in our brain all the time.
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It seems like, hey, that guy's looking at me. That that lady just flipped me off. What did I do? Um.
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You know. Oh, man. I accidentally bumped into a lady at the at the grocery store today. She probably
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hates me. You got to get rid of those thoughts. You got to put your own mask on first, and then you
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got to worry about everybody else. Uh, very poignant stuff from Stephanie there. And also just
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hearing about sort of what makes her tick and her kids and the real estate and trying to set her
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kids up with houses before they even get into college. Um, I think that's just that's the
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motivation, right? Because this is a hard job. This is a job that's going to keep you away from home
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more than other jobs. And so you have to have something like that that keeps you moving forward
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every single day. And Stephanie really does. Um, great interview. I don't have anything else to say
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about it. I'm just going to go ahead and wrap this episode up, because I feel like the more that I,
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you know, banter on about it, the more it takes away from it. I go back and listen to it again. Um,
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because, uh, there's going to be things that you missed, and trust me, you're going to want to hear
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them. Thank you, thank you, thank you to Stephanie Evans for coming in here and joining me today. And
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thank all of you for clicking download or going to the website and playing this episode. You guys
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are the reasons that we do this. Make sure to get your quiz turned in so that your name is in the
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hat for that $400 Amazon gift card drawing. Uh, and stay tuned here to Always pneumatic, never static,
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because we'll be telling you at some point in time, um, when we're going to pull the trigger on
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that drawing. Now, one thing about being the host that you guys might think is that I have control
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over all of this, that I'm the one making the decisions. I would look at me more like the, uh, the
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general attraction in the zoo. Right? Yeah. People are coming here to see me. They're coming here to
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listen to me. But without handlers and a cage and just keeping a lid on my whole pen,
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um, none of this stuff would get done. And so I don't know exactly when we're going to give it
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away. And I think that's probably them keeping me in the dark for a good reason. A they don't want
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me to blow it and give it away before we're supposed to, or let you guys know the date before
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we're supposed to. Uh, because I talk a lot. I mean, these people are people that sit in meetings with
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me each week. They know who I am. And, uh, it's probably smart for them to keep that information
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from me. So know that I will give you that information when we're going to do the drawing at
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some point in time in the future. But until then, I just have to kind of talk about it like it's it's
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the carrot and the stick thing. Right? I'm dangling it in front of you. Keep chasing it. The most
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important thing that I need to say is to fill out those quizzes. It doesn't matter if you get every
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question right or wrong. What matters is that you filled it out. You put your name on it, you turned
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it in. That's going to get you entered for that $400 Amazon gift card drawing. Thank you all so
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much for being here today. That will put the brakes on this episode of Always Pneumatic, never
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static. Stay tuned. Next week, Wednesday 5 a.m. local time for another episode. An hour of content
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from all of us here at Always Pneumatic, never static. We appreciate you. Be safe out there,
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drivers. We'll talk to you again next week. And that's all she blows for today's episode of
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Always Pneumatic, Never Static. Your number one and probably only Pneumatic Trucking podcast, brought
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to you by Bulk Transit. Thanks for rolling with us today. Till next time, stay safe, keep those lines
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clear and keep it pumping.