Bulk Transit PodcastReleased: 04/08/2026

Day in the Life: OTR, Dispatch & the Road at Bulk

Day in the Life: OTR, Dispatch & the Road at Bulk
Bulk Transit PodcastReleased 04/08/2026
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A day in the life at Bulk Transit sounds straightforward until four people who live it start talking. In Episode 9 of Always Pneumatic, Never Static, host Marcus sits down with OTR driver Mike Upchurch, regional driver Bryan Alexander, office manager Lu Ann Saunders, and dispatcher Sara Litzinger from the Foster, Kentucky, terminal for a conversation that covers both sides of the aisle. What does a typical day look like for an OTR driver out on the road versus a regional driver staying closer to home? What does dispatch deal with that drivers never see? What does operations manage that nobody talks about? This episode answers all of it and then some. The conversation stays grounded and informative throughout, but make no mistake, there are stories from the yard and the road in here that will genuinely stop you in your tracks. Animal strikes, bird strikes, and the kind of moments that remind you this job never goes exactly according to plan. But here is what every single one of these four employees kept coming back to: communication is everything. Tune in and find out why. New episodes every Wednesday.

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About This Episode

This week on Always Pneumatic, Never Static, host Marcus brings together four Bulk and Spur Transit employees to answer one simple question, what does a day in the life at Bulk actually look like? The answer, it turns out, depends entirely on which side of the aisle you are standing on. OTR driver Mike Upchurch and regional driver Bryan Alexander share what life on the road really looks like, while office manager Lu Ann Saunders and dispatcher Sara Litzinger from the Foster, Kentucky terminal breakdown what it takes to keep everything moving from the office side. The conversation stays honest, gets informative, and lands on one thing every single person at the table agrees on, communication is the whole game.

Episode Highlights

Lu Ann has been with Bulk for 14 years and sums up why in one line. At 2 a.m. when something goes wrong, you can actually reach an owner.

Bryan is days away from his one year anniversary and credits Bulk with giving him a chance on pneumatic trailers he had never run, and the stability that followed changed everything for his family.

Drivers and dispatch land on the same answer when asked what keeps operations running, communicate early, communicate often, and never let the customer call you first.

The office side gets their turn. Sara breaks down what dispatch actually needs from drivers, and it is simpler than most people think

Mike gets an egret caught in his mirror bracket, Bryan has a hawk drop a four foot corn snake onto his truck at highway speed, and a turkey ends up in a passenger seat after coming through a windshield

Sara tells the story about spending over an hour chasing a feral kitten through the terminal yard. The kitten won. The Foster terminal got a new unwritten policy, feed them and let them go

From The Host

“Nobody sees what goes into moving a load from point A to point B. They see the truck on the highway but they do not see the 3 a.m. alarm, the load that changed halfway through the day, or the dispatch office going from silent to absolute chaos in thirty seconds. After this episode you do. And the thing that holds all of it together is not equipment or scheduling software. It is people who communicate early, stay calm under pressure, and show up for each other when the day goes sideways, which it will. That is what makes Bulk, Bulk. Communicate early and often. Mike and Bryan will tell you that is the name of the game, and Lu Ann and Sara will tell you, if you do not want them barking up your tree, keep those lines open.

New episodes drop every Wednesday. Keep the shiny side up, stay safe, and always keep that pneumatic flowing.” — Marcus Bridges, Host

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1 00:00:00,800 --> 00:00:07,240 You ever have one of those days where everything goes exactly how you planned? Yeah. Me either. Uh, 2 00:00:07,240 --> 00:00:11,960 but because if you work in trucking, especially at a place like bulk, you already know the deal. You 3 00:00:11,960 --> 00:00:18,600 can wake up at 3 a.m., you can have your whole day mapped out. And by 730, that plan has found 4 00:00:18,600 --> 00:00:25,040 a permanent home in the round file. A load might get moved, customer might push you back. Dispatch 5 00:00:25,040 --> 00:00:30,760 might call and say, hey, don't be mad. But, uh, and now you're going someplace completely different. 6 00:00:30,760 --> 00:00:35,280 The day has totally changed. But here's the thing. And this is what I love about our upcoming 7 00:00:35,280 --> 00:00:41,280 episode here. That chaos that we're talking about, it's not just happening to the drivers. It's 8 00:00:41,280 --> 00:00:46,200 happening in the office, too. Phones are ringing, loads are canceling. New ones are popping up out 9 00:00:46,200 --> 00:00:52,759 of nowhere. Somebody stuck. Somebody late. Somebody's broken down. And somehow all of it 10 00:00:52,759 --> 00:00:58,520 still works. So today we're pulling back the curtain a little bit. We've got drivers, we've got 11 00:00:58,610 --> 00:01:03,930 dispatch. We've got the people actually making this thing run. And we're answering the simple 12 00:01:03,930 --> 00:01:10,809 question, what does a day in the life at bulk really look like? Spoiler 13 00:01:10,809 --> 00:01:17,489 alert there's a lot. You are listening to. Always pneumatic, never 14 00:01:17,489 --> 00:01:23,370 static. The Totally Pressurized podcast, brought to you by Bulk Transit, where we keep the lines clear, 15 00:01:23,370 --> 00:01:28,409 the tanks empty, and the conversation anything but dry. Whether you're running powder pellets or 16 00:01:28,410 --> 00:01:32,729 anything in between. Pull up a seat. Crack the windows and let's hit it. 17 00:01:35,370 --> 00:01:41,409 Bulk and Spur. How's it going out there? Welcome into always pneumatic, never static. I am your host, 18 00:01:41,410 --> 00:01:47,449 Marcus. Thank you so much for being here today. We've got a great episode planned for you, and I 19 00:01:47,449 --> 00:01:52,009 will give you a bit of a spoiler alert here. Already did the interview. In fact, I just finished 20 00:01:52,009 --> 00:01:58,870 it and wow, this one was awesome. A lot of fun, a lot of insight. And really what I would 21 00:01:58,870 --> 00:02:04,470 call, as I said in the cold open, a great peek behind the curtain. You really do get to see a 22 00:02:04,470 --> 00:02:10,830 little bit about the relationship between drivers and dispatch office and on the road in this 23 00:02:10,830 --> 00:02:16,949 episode, so stay tuned. We're bringing in four bulk employees to talk to us, two office 24 00:02:17,390 --> 00:02:23,429 employees and two drivers. And I really like the way that you can see things from both sides of 25 00:02:23,429 --> 00:02:28,190 the aisle. Here with our upcoming interview. So stick around. I'll get to that in just a second. 26 00:02:28,229 --> 00:02:35,110 We've got Mike Upchurch, Bryan Alexander, Lu Ann Saunders, and Sara Litzinger joining us today, 27 00:02:35,110 --> 00:02:41,439 and it is a fun conversation. I really enjoyed it, but the thing went almost like it's like 52 or 53 28 00:02:41,440 --> 00:02:45,149 minutes long. So I'm going to keep this intro short so that we can get to the meat of the 29 00:02:45,149 --> 00:02:49,469 episode, because that's the real good stuff. Uh, homework assignment. You know what's coming down 30 00:02:49,470 --> 00:02:56,039 the pike. Podcast dot Bulk transit.com is the website that's our landing page for the podcast. 31 00:02:56,039 --> 00:03:02,080 And not only can you listen to episodes there, but you can find out everything about each episode. 32 00:03:02,080 --> 00:03:08,160 They're who we're talking to, what we're talking about, and as we continue to produce more episodes, 33 00:03:08,160 --> 00:03:12,880 sooner or later we'll be able to kind of silo those things off into playlists for you. So if you 34 00:03:12,880 --> 00:03:18,200 want to listen to something about safety, there'll be a full playlist there of safety episodes for 35 00:03:18,200 --> 00:03:23,039 you or sort of day in the life type stuff like we're doing today. There'll be a playlist for that. 36 00:03:23,039 --> 00:03:28,800 So that's coming down the pike. We just got to get enough podcast episodes to where we actually have 37 00:03:28,800 --> 00:03:34,039 enough to make a playlist. And since we're still under ten right now, that's going to take a little 38 00:03:34,080 --> 00:03:40,519 bit of time. But the website is up and running again. podcast.bulktransit.com. My guy 39 00:03:40,560 --> 00:03:47,079 Tyler working his magic there. The cool thing about the website is everything that we're going 40 00:03:47,080 --> 00:03:52,600 to do there, all the quizzes and everything like that live on the website. You can find the podcast 41 00:03:52,600 --> 00:03:56,609 at Spotify or Apple or Google or what have you, but you're not going to be able to interact with 42 00:03:56,609 --> 00:04:02,169 it quite the way that people that are going to the website are. So I highly recommend just 43 00:04:02,170 --> 00:04:07,610 bookmarking that page on your phone or your tablet or your computer wherever you're at when 44 00:04:07,610 --> 00:04:12,330 you're listening to this. My guess would be most of you drivers out there probably bookmark it on 45 00:04:12,330 --> 00:04:16,570 your phone and then it's just simple, easy. All you got to do is pull it up every Wednesday morning 46 00:04:16,570 --> 00:04:22,849 and bam, you got a brand new hour content that's all about bulk transit right there in your hand. 47 00:04:22,849 --> 00:04:29,489 So bookmark the website podcast.bulktransit.com and make sure that you're going 48 00:04:29,530 --> 00:04:34,489 there to interact with the quizzes and find out anything else you know. If we end up with a photo 49 00:04:34,489 --> 00:04:39,249 gallery, sometimes we have drivers send pictures into us. Sometimes we'll ask you guys for some 50 00:04:39,249 --> 00:04:43,849 pictures. If we're doing an episode that's kind of themed around something like that, that's where 51 00:04:43,850 --> 00:04:49,249 all that stuff will live. You'll end up finding that there at the website. Uh, once again, podcast 52 00:04:49,249 --> 00:04:54,670 dot bulk transit.com. And for those of you that are interested in joining the podcast, being on 53 00:04:54,670 --> 00:05:01,189 the podcast. There is an email link there for me as well. You can get right to my pocket by going 54 00:05:01,189 --> 00:05:07,949 over to the website, or if you are acquainted with any of the drivers or the office staff that have 55 00:05:07,950 --> 00:05:12,030 been on the podcast before, and you guys hear me, you're going to hear me say this so much like, 56 00:05:12,030 --> 00:05:17,789 this is something I will say in almost every episode. If somebody's been on this podcast and 57 00:05:17,790 --> 00:05:24,149 you are acquainted with them, get my contact info from them. I care not if you guys share my my 58 00:05:24,149 --> 00:05:31,029 phone number around like it's a junior high show game. Okay, just spread it like wildfire. Since 59 00:05:31,029 --> 00:05:35,548 you're not the only people listening to this podcast, I'm not going to give my phone number out 60 00:05:35,589 --> 00:05:42,189 on the air, but maybe someday I'll lose a bet and you guys can talk me into that. Okay, for now, just 61 00:05:42,190 --> 00:05:47,310 go to the website, take the quizzes, enjoy yourself there, find out all of the episodes that we've 62 00:05:47,310 --> 00:05:54,240 been producing and what they're about. It's all their podcast.bulktransit.com. Enough homework for today. 63 00:05:54,279 --> 00:06:01,160 This episode we kind of idea this thing as what is a day in the life 64 00:06:01,160 --> 00:06:05,879 like. And we thought, well, a driver is going to have a much different day in the life than, say, 65 00:06:05,880 --> 00:06:11,880 somebody in the shop or somebody in the office. What if we went ahead and just tried to get a few 66 00:06:11,880 --> 00:06:16,320 different people in, so we could kind of get a sprinkle of the day in the life from multiple 67 00:06:16,320 --> 00:06:21,640 different viewpoints? And that's exactly what we were able to do today. Uh, we've got Lu and Sara 68 00:06:21,680 --> 00:06:26,159 joining us from the Foster terminal, and they are basically Sara is going to handle most of the 69 00:06:26,160 --> 00:06:32,760 dispatch. Of course, you've got, um, Lu there she is, the office manager. She also does handle a little 70 00:06:32,760 --> 00:06:38,600 bit of dispatch from time to time. So we're going to get a really good take on what things are like 71 00:06:38,640 --> 00:06:43,599 at the foster terminal in kind of dispatch and the office management side of things for the 72 00:06:43,600 --> 00:06:48,439 driver's side. You know, we're going to represent that side on this show. We've got Mike Upchurch 73 00:06:48,440 --> 00:06:54,209 and Bryan Alexander joining us. And the types of driving that they do are just slightly different. 74 00:06:54,289 --> 00:06:58,889 I'm sure they've done some of the things, uh, the same as the other guy from time to time, but 75 00:06:58,970 --> 00:07:05,209 sounds like Bryan's kind of delivering some, uh, construction sites and Mikes OTR. So, uh, some 76 00:07:05,209 --> 00:07:09,849 really good insight coming up on this interview. I highly recommend you stick around because it's 77 00:07:09,850 --> 00:07:11,369 coming up right now. 78 00:07:19,649 --> 00:07:25,529 Welcome back into Always Pneumatic, Never Static. I am so excited about this next interview. You know, 79 00:07:25,530 --> 00:07:30,769 a lot of times on this show, we'll talk to drivers or we'll talk to office staff. Sometimes we get 80 00:07:30,769 --> 00:07:36,769 them in here together. And today we've got a full house four Bulk and Spur. Employees in, uh, are 81 00:07:36,850 --> 00:07:41,488 joining us right now. And, uh, going to welcome back to the show first, the only one that's been here 82 00:07:41,489 --> 00:07:47,699 before. Say hello to Mike Upchurch. Mike, thank you so much for joining us today, my friend. Absolutely, 83 00:07:47,700 --> 00:07:54,260 sir. And where are you at right now, Mike? Uh, don't just mount to Jonesboro, Arkansas. Okay. And are we 84 00:07:54,300 --> 00:08:00,938 are we headed back towards home, or are we headed out? Uh, headed out. Uh, Nestlé. Nestlé? Uh, they did a 85 00:08:00,939 --> 00:08:07,779 lot of Hot Pockets and the spaghetti dinners and stuff like that. That's my kind of. Stop right 86 00:08:07,779 --> 00:08:12,419 there, Mike. That's how I get inside. There would be real good, but they got it locked down like an 87 00:08:12,419 --> 00:08:17,298 armored armored car there. So, yeah, they always they always keep all the good stuff away from 88 00:08:17,299 --> 00:08:23,540 prying eyes, don't they? Yes, sir. It's food grade, so. Yes, sir. Gotcha, gotcha. Well, thanks for joining us, 89 00:08:23,540 --> 00:08:29,340 Mike. Always a pleasure to have you, uh, our second driver. Oh, of course, of course. Our second driver 90 00:08:29,379 --> 00:08:33,419 joining us today is making his first appearance on the show, and we're happy to have him. Please 91 00:08:33,419 --> 00:08:38,139 welcome Bryan Alexander. Brian, appreciate the time, man. How's everything going for you today? 92 00:08:38,379 --> 00:08:44,059 Absolutely. No problem. It's going well. Uh, you know, we we had a little heat wave here in Ohio for 93 00:08:44,060 --> 00:08:48,918 about two days, and now we're back down to freezing so we could get it back together. We love 94 00:08:48,919 --> 00:08:53,759 our days even more. Yeah, I hear you, but what fun would it be if you could predict the weather? 95 00:08:53,760 --> 00:08:57,959 Bryan, that would be no fun at all for a job like you do. I mean, all that trip planning, you'd get 96 00:08:57,960 --> 00:09:03,000 ahead on all that stuff. That's. No, that's no good. That's for the birds, right? Oh, yeah. Fly by the 97 00:09:03,000 --> 00:09:10,000 minute. Amen, brother. Amen. And where are you at right now, Bryan? Uh, I'm north of Dayton, 98 00:09:10,000 --> 00:09:16,879 almost into a little town called Lima, Ohio, taking some submit to a road job up here. Okay. And, uh, 99 00:09:16,880 --> 00:09:20,679 Mike, I've already established this stuff with Mike because he's been on the show before. But I 100 00:09:20,679 --> 00:09:26,478 always like to ask our guests on the podcast, how long have you been working for Bulk? Um, I'm 101 00:09:26,520 --> 00:09:33,079 actually a week away from my year anniversary. Hey, how about that? Hang on a second. I've got a button 102 00:09:33,080 --> 00:09:39,519 for that, for sure. Give him a round of applause for one year. That's awesome. Congratulations. 103 00:09:40,159 --> 00:09:46,890 You like it? Appreciate it. You like it so far? Yeah. Oh, yeah. Never the same thing every day. And, uh, 104 00:09:47,169 --> 00:09:52,330 always get to meet some new faces. So I'm, uh, I'm right where I need to be. No complaints. That's 105 00:09:52,330 --> 00:09:56,728 awesome. Brian. Well, thank you for joining us today. Looking forward to hearing a bit more about your 106 00:09:56,729 --> 00:10:03,649 day to day. Uh, also joining us here, we've got our office manager and dispatcher from the 107 00:10:03,650 --> 00:10:09,809 foster terminal. Lu. Lu. Welcome to the show. Thank you so much for being here today. Thank you for 108 00:10:09,810 --> 00:10:15,329 having me. Of course. And you brought along a sidekick with you today. We've got, uh, Sara 109 00:10:15,329 --> 00:10:20,329 Litzinger joining you. She's the administrative assistant out there at Foster. Sara, thank you for 110 00:10:20,330 --> 00:10:27,049 the time. Thank you for having me. Um, Sara. Also oes 99% of the dispatching. The only time 111 00:10:27,049 --> 00:10:33,889 I dispatch is when Sara is out. Okay, well, you got to change up that email signature. Sara, get that 112 00:10:33,889 --> 00:10:38,329 get that title on there. So a guy like me can give you the, uh, the flowers that you deserve. Because 113 00:10:38,330 --> 00:10:43,658 dispatch is not an easy job. That's all right. I'd rather stay under the radar. 114 00:10:44,659 --> 00:10:50,499 Understandable, understandable. Now, Lu, how long have you been working for Bulk? Because I 115 00:10:50,499 --> 00:10:57,339 understand. It's it's you've you've got some time under your belt. 14 years as of last August. I feel 116 00:10:57,340 --> 00:11:03,979 like that deserves a round of applause as well. 14 years. That's amazing. What's kept you here for all 117 00:11:03,979 --> 00:11:10,700 that time, Lu? It's just they're good people. I mean, they treat you like 118 00:11:10,739 --> 00:11:17,419 family. Where else? I've never worked anywhere. But at 2:00 in the morning, you can 119 00:11:17,419 --> 00:11:23,419 actually get a hold of an owner. Wow. That's saying something. When there's problems that go down. 120 00:11:23,460 --> 00:11:30,019 Right? Okay, I, I love that. And, Sara, how about you? How long have you been with Bulk? I've been here 121 00:11:30,020 --> 00:11:36,178 six years. In February. I started out as part-time, but my husband was actually a driver here and got 122 00:11:36,179 --> 00:11:42,640 me looped into the family network, and I've stuck it out since then. Well that's awesome. I think six 123 00:11:42,640 --> 00:11:47,760 years deserves a round of applause, too. We're just giving everybody a round of applause today. Uh. 124 00:11:48,000 --> 00:11:52,400 That's great. I love having long tenured employees on, because I feel like you get to go just a 125 00:11:52,400 --> 00:11:56,918 little bit deeper, uh, with with what we're going to talk about here today. Because the reason I've 126 00:11:56,919 --> 00:12:02,039 brought you all on and the reason I love having kind of a diverse group of people, as far as the 127 00:12:02,039 --> 00:12:06,919 jobs are concerned, is we're here to talk about a day in the life of Bulk. Let's figure out what 128 00:12:06,919 --> 00:12:13,200 it's like for some of the drivers, for some of the office staff, just what does a day at this job 129 00:12:13,200 --> 00:12:18,639 entail? And, uh, let's just start off, I want a round table. This one, I'm just going to kind of go 130 00:12:18,640 --> 00:12:25,519 around the board. Uh, I'll start with you, Mike. Um, what time does your day start, Mike? And what's 131 00:12:25,520 --> 00:12:31,599 the very first thing that you're dealing with, uh, when you're starting your day out there? Well, 132 00:12:31,640 --> 00:12:37,358 usually all different times. So I'll start with the day. Day over eggs. I kind of do, uh, some over, 133 00:12:37,400 --> 00:12:44,289 over the road stuff and some of the local stuff. But this morning I got a quick 3:00, went down to 134 00:12:44,289 --> 00:12:51,250 the yard and, uh, some I got my information from my load, but I've done my pre-trip and everything on 135 00:12:51,250 --> 00:12:58,049 my truck and trailer and it hooked up, uh, hooked it up at the same time there and then left out, 136 00:12:58,090 --> 00:13:04,889 uh, by 4:00 area. I left out and stopped, uh, got through the 137 00:13:04,890 --> 00:13:10,009 traffic and stuff. I had a little bit of construction coming up and stopped very, uh, little 138 00:13:10,010 --> 00:13:16,609 town, uh, about an hour out, about two hours out and, uh, got fuel and done my, uh, my 139 00:13:16,849 --> 00:13:23,489 take it back so far, about five hours out. And I stopped about an hour from us. Got the, uh, fuel and 140 00:13:23,489 --> 00:13:29,529 and, uh, through my 30 minute break and then headed up on up to the Jonesboro. Okay. So your day can be 141 00:13:29,530 --> 00:13:34,568 a little bit diverse when it starts out, but, uh, it sounds like most of the time you're you're up 142 00:13:34,569 --> 00:13:40,978 pretty early. 3 a.m.. That's that's wild in my view. You know, I try to put this in my, my 143 00:13:40,979 --> 00:13:46,339 perspective just for a second. There's days where you're getting out of bed, getting ready to go do 144 00:13:46,379 --> 00:13:51,218 your job. Where? I haven't gone to bed yet. Over here on the West Coast, Mike. And that just blows 145 00:13:51,219 --> 00:13:58,059 my mind, my friend. Yeah. Sorry. Yes. It's floating. Floating. Times. Floating times. A lot of 146 00:13:58,059 --> 00:14:04,780 time there. What's what's the latest you'll ever get started, Mike? No, no. Overnight or a lot of 147 00:14:04,780 --> 00:14:09,859 times. I'll wait. My wife goes to work. It'll be nine, 9 or 10. Probably the yard. And it head out 148 00:14:09,859 --> 00:14:16,579 for her for the next day. Next day. Load the overnight load. Okay, so a little bit. Sometimes you 149 00:14:16,579 --> 00:14:22,859 get to sleep in just a little bit is what you're saying? Uh, yes. There's sleep in the coffee and a 150 00:14:22,859 --> 00:14:28,139 lot of times breakfast that morning. So. Okay. It makes it makes it nice. Yeah. For sure. Nothing like 151 00:14:28,140 --> 00:14:33,379 going out on the road with a full stomach, man. And for the homemade wrappers a lot. Some leftovers. So 152 00:14:33,380 --> 00:14:39,520 it's a nice box. It's a good day. Nice. Nice. Bryan. What's, uh, what's a typical day look like for you? 153 00:14:39,559 --> 00:14:44,640 When does it start? What's the first type of thing that you're dealing with out there? Um, just like 154 00:14:44,640 --> 00:14:50,359 Mike was saying, it's. It varies. I've gone up and left the house at 1 a.m. yesterday. I got to leave 155 00:14:50,360 --> 00:14:56,839 the house about 6:30 a.m.. Felt like I slept in quite a bit yesterday. Um, today I was back up and 156 00:14:56,839 --> 00:15:02,359 moving about 3:00. Left the house about 330. Lucky for me, I'm only about 15 minutes away from our 157 00:15:02,359 --> 00:15:09,120 yard. Um, so I'll get to the yard, grab my paperwork, hop in my truck, do my pre-trip on my truck, 158 00:15:09,120 --> 00:15:15,639 find the trailer, do the same thing there, and then I'm off to get loaded. Kind of depends on what 159 00:15:15,640 --> 00:15:22,400 product I'm hauling as far as what the load is going to look like. We got about seven different 160 00:15:22,400 --> 00:15:26,840 products we haul out of my terminal, so it just kind of depends on what, uh, what fell down the 161 00:15:26,840 --> 00:15:33,399 seniority line and what I picked. And everything else is pretty basic. You know, you you hope to 162 00:15:33,570 --> 00:15:40,329 skip rush hour in any of the major cities, but you always get stuck in and it seems like. And, uh, yeah, 163 00:15:40,329 --> 00:15:45,969 it's, uh, although the product can be different and the places you go are different, you tend to catch 164 00:15:45,969 --> 00:15:52,010 up on, uh, everything being pretty normal. You know, he hopes to not run into any too much 165 00:15:52,010 --> 00:15:57,289 construction or any wrecks flow in your back or anything like that today seem to be pretty smooth. 166 00:15:57,289 --> 00:16:03,889 Although my dispatch location got changed on me halfway through my deliver, my first delivery. But, 167 00:16:03,930 --> 00:16:10,130 uh oh, Sara. Just keep on. Keep showing your toes. There you go. Okay, well, this is cool, because now I 168 00:16:10,130 --> 00:16:14,689 know that, Sara, you might not have dispatched that load for Bryan, but maybe you can speak to me 169 00:16:14,689 --> 00:16:20,329 a little bit about what happens when, uh, something like that. What Bryan just described happens where, 170 00:16:20,329 --> 00:16:24,089 uh, dispatch kind of changes something right in the middle of the load. Is that something that 171 00:16:24,090 --> 00:16:28,329 happens frequently? Is that something that you guys are kind of used to talk me through it a 172 00:16:28,329 --> 00:16:35,059 little bit? Sara. Yeah, it's for the most part, it is not typically normal, but it can be 173 00:16:35,060 --> 00:16:41,459 normal. But we here at Foster, we load out of one of two places, so we already pretty well know 174 00:16:41,460 --> 00:16:46,619 where everything's set up. But the delivery location can change and stuff. So yeah, I mean 175 00:16:46,659 --> 00:16:52,739 we're just kind of a fly by seat, pick up that phone call and say, hey, sorry to do this, but we've 176 00:16:52,739 --> 00:16:59,059 got to reroute you to someplace else. And Bryan, when you hear that call come through, uh, is it 177 00:16:59,060 --> 00:17:03,058 something that, uh, does it does it get under your skin? Does it frustrate you, or is it just kind of 178 00:17:03,100 --> 00:17:09,539 par for the course? And you know that sometimes it happens. Uh, it comes with the territory. I, uh, I try 179 00:17:09,579 --> 00:17:13,779 to let things slide right off, and that way doesn't. I mean, when you're talking about getting 180 00:17:13,780 --> 00:17:18,059 that phone call 430, 5:00 in the morning, it's going to make for a long day if you let that 181 00:17:18,060 --> 00:17:24,339 start your day off the wrong way. Yes, sir. Yes, sir. So you just kind of like I said, stay on your toes. 182 00:17:24,339 --> 00:17:28,620 Whatever. Whatever we need as long. I mean, I'd rather be sitting somewhere else than the 183 00:17:28,620 --> 00:17:34,079 dispatch. Just be completely canceled. So. Right. Right. That's a good point. Okay. Awesome stuff 184 00:17:34,080 --> 00:17:38,958 there. I'm glad we got something there that we can kind of touch. Both, uh, both sides on. Uh, but I want 185 00:17:38,959 --> 00:17:44,519 to go over to Lu now and talk about Lu. What's a day look like for you? What time does the day 186 00:17:44,519 --> 00:17:49,639 start for you? I mean, you mentioned already that a that a 2 a.m. phone call is nothing out of the 187 00:17:49,639 --> 00:17:55,639 ordinary here at Bulk. So, uh, when do you turn the lights on? They're at Foster. I usually get 188 00:17:55,680 --> 00:18:02,439 actually in the office between 7 and 715. But when does the day start? It 189 00:18:02,439 --> 00:18:09,040 depends. Actually, they don't stop. I mean, the drivers do know, though, 190 00:18:09,040 --> 00:18:15,919 that mine and Sara's sleep schedule are totally different. Um, if you need 191 00:18:15,920 --> 00:18:21,999 something at 6:00 at night, you probably better call Sara, because I'm probably napping. Uh huh. If 192 00:18:22,000 --> 00:18:27,759 you need something after ten, especially after midnight, don't call Sara. You call me. 193 00:18:28,569 --> 00:18:34,890 Okay. And these are. These are firm, hard rules. Yeah. Like midnight on. I'm. 194 00:18:35,249 --> 00:18:40,729 I'm awake. And the guys know that they're funny because they know our schedule. Yeah, the Foster 195 00:18:40,730 --> 00:18:46,810 terminal drivers. I mean, they can nail us to a tee of who's going to be awake, who's going to respond 196 00:18:46,810 --> 00:18:52,410 and who's asleep. And and what type of chewing out do they get if they make the mistake and call the 197 00:18:52,410 --> 00:18:58,209 wrong number. And they don't get that because they're not going to respond. He's not going to 198 00:18:58,209 --> 00:19:04,689 hear the song. Oh my God, I don't know. Squat. You know what? They're not going to get any kind of 199 00:19:04,730 --> 00:19:10,289 fuss tonight because bottom line is they're not going to call either one of us just because of 200 00:19:10,290 --> 00:19:17,250 our charming personalities. There's a problem or. I mean, yeah, they're not 201 00:19:17,250 --> 00:19:24,169 calling to just talk. Oh, there's a problem. Okay, I understand that now. I'm to be honest with you, 202 00:19:24,209 --> 00:19:28,299 though, I'm having a great conversation with the two of you. I would call you just to talk, but 203 00:19:28,300 --> 00:19:34,259 maybe that's because you don't deal with me all the time, right? Absolutely. You don't see it all 204 00:19:34,260 --> 00:19:41,139 the time. The the favorite thing is. Sorry to call you, but. Yeah. Yeah, I like the one that says, 205 00:19:41,139 --> 00:19:47,979 hey, we got a problem. Uh, no, I would snuggle down in bed. I didn't promise you bother me. 206 00:19:49,500 --> 00:19:55,299 Now, Lu. You told me that you and Sarah have a little bit of a nickname here. Now, I. I will say 207 00:19:55,300 --> 00:20:00,379 this. I'll preface this by saying this might get, uh, it might get edited a little bit. It might get, 208 00:20:00,380 --> 00:20:05,779 um, censored. But I want you to go ahead and say it because we can beep it out if we need to. But what 209 00:20:05,780 --> 00:20:11,699 do you guys call yourselves? Uh, what did you tell me before we went on the air here? Two bitches in 210 00:20:11,699 --> 00:20:18,659 a dispatch. You. And it doesn't sound like that's an offensive name for you. You 211 00:20:18,699 --> 00:20:25,550 kind of own that a little bit. It sounds like. Oh, we're very proud. Trust me, These 212 00:20:25,550 --> 00:20:32,430 guys would run over top of us if we did not stand our ground. Yeah, that's true man. Drivers 213 00:20:32,430 --> 00:20:37,390 can be a stubborn bunch. And it's not to say that that's a bad trait to have as a driver. I think a 214 00:20:37,390 --> 00:20:42,829 little bit of stubbornness as a driver, uh, probably keeps your day from going off the rails 215 00:20:42,829 --> 00:20:49,708 quite frequently. Bryan. Mike, would you agree with that? Absolutely. Oh, yeah. Yeah. 216 00:20:50,469 --> 00:20:54,669 Do you ever find yourself being, uh, a little bit stubborn and think maybe I should take it easy on 217 00:20:54,670 --> 00:21:00,989 dispatch today? Or is it just. No, I gotta stay. I gotta stay stubborn. Yep. It's a constant. I have to 218 00:21:00,989 --> 00:21:06,909 stay stubborn. Okay. All right. I want my loads covered. You know, Bryan and Andrea and all of us 219 00:21:06,949 --> 00:21:12,909 want to pay tax, and we've got to keep pushing. We can't slack up a little. Okay? And our drivers, I 220 00:21:12,910 --> 00:21:19,509 mean, at the end of the day, you can have dispatch from the floor to the ceiling. But if you don't 221 00:21:19,510 --> 00:21:25,769 have a driver that gets that product in that silo, There's where the money comes in. Once that 222 00:21:25,770 --> 00:21:31,968 product hits that silo, then Bulk Transit's paid and we're all paid. So that's a very important 223 00:21:32,009 --> 00:21:37,849 thing to have drivers that are reliable and know how to do the job consistently every single time. 224 00:21:38,489 --> 00:21:44,329 Yeah, absolutely. And I'm wondering, do you want to shout out any of your Foster drivers right now? 225 00:21:44,329 --> 00:21:48,889 Because I know that dispatch and terminal management will have some drivers that are just 226 00:21:48,890 --> 00:21:53,689 always there for them. They've got a great relationship, and since we don't have any Foster 227 00:21:53,689 --> 00:21:58,449 drivers on this episode, I want to give you the chance to call any of them out that maybe have a, 228 00:21:58,490 --> 00:22:03,689 you know, made the day a little bit easier on you recently or anything like that. Uh, Sara and Lu. 229 00:22:04,250 --> 00:22:10,970 I'm going to be honest. We have a great, great, great, great drivers. We've got drivers here that's 230 00:22:10,970 --> 00:22:17,889 been here for 30 plus years, and we've got drivers that's been here for six months, 231 00:22:18,250 --> 00:22:24,779 and there's not one of them But we would hesitate to pick up the 232 00:22:24,779 --> 00:22:31,179 phone and call and ask them because they're going to if they're able and they got ours, they're 233 00:22:31,180 --> 00:22:36,539 going to help us. That's awesome. You know, it's something that I've heard from basically every 234 00:22:36,540 --> 00:22:42,219 terminal manager that I've talked to, every, uh, person that's, uh, you know, working with the 235 00:22:42,219 --> 00:22:46,859 drivers, but in a terminal that seems to be consistent through every single one that I've 236 00:22:46,859 --> 00:22:51,579 gotten to talk to. And I'm I'm not through all of them at this point, but I've hit quite a few, so I 237 00:22:51,580 --> 00:22:57,900 love to hear that. Um, Mike, Bryan, I'm going to. I'm not saying that, you know, I'm not saying that it's 238 00:22:57,900 --> 00:23:03,779 all honey pie every day because, oh, interesting to get into it. But at the end of the day, it's funny. 239 00:23:03,780 --> 00:23:10,579 We all miss this fight. And it's like, oh, hey, Lu. Oh, hey, how are you? Like it's. A 240 00:23:10,579 --> 00:23:17,579 thing. It is. You know, at the end of the day, we're all striving for the same goal and that's to make 241 00:23:19,180 --> 00:23:25,789 bulk transit profitable and not. So let me ask you this one, another roundtable question here. And then I've 242 00:23:25,790 --> 00:23:30,589 got a couple questions for the drivers. And then we'll get back to Lu and Sara with some 243 00:23:30,590 --> 00:23:35,670 dispatch dispatch questions and kind of marry the whole thing together. But one last roundtable 244 00:23:35,670 --> 00:23:41,389 question for all of you guys before we move on here. And, Mike, I'll start with you. Uh, on a scale 245 00:23:41,390 --> 00:23:47,869 of smooth sailing to dumpster fire, how often is your day predictable. You know, you're getting up 246 00:23:47,870 --> 00:23:51,869 and you're starting, you know, what's going to happen is that, uh, is that frequent? Is that 247 00:23:51,869 --> 00:23:57,149 something that you're used to? Unpredictable. I was saying that's right. Most of. The time. Most times. 248 00:23:57,749 --> 00:24:02,469 Yes, sir. Yeah, I would say so. I kind of figured the answer from at least one of the drivers was going 249 00:24:02,469 --> 00:24:07,389 to be, uh, dumpster fire every day. I never know it's going to happen. Just. It's the nature of the 250 00:24:07,390 --> 00:24:14,310 gig. But, uh, Bryan, I'll go to you. Same thing. How often is your day out there? Predictable. Um, I'd 251 00:24:14,310 --> 00:24:17,429 say it's about mid range. I mean, when you're out there dealing with the general public on the 252 00:24:17,430 --> 00:24:23,769 roads, you never really can pinpoint how the day is going to go. But for the most part, I mean, when 253 00:24:23,770 --> 00:24:28,769 you when you get your dispatch the day before, you kind of have a pretty solid idea of what your 254 00:24:28,769 --> 00:24:34,129 next day is going to look like. Um, it's not often that you get the call changing where you're 255 00:24:34,130 --> 00:24:40,929 delivering to, um, so most of the time it's, hey, this is what we've got for you tomorrow. You pick. 256 00:24:40,969 --> 00:24:46,169 And that's basically how it goes the next day. Barring any issues with traffic or weather or 257 00:24:46,170 --> 00:24:51,489 anything like that. Sure. No, it's a well-oiled machine. There's no question about it there. But, uh, 258 00:24:51,489 --> 00:24:56,488 sometimes it's just it's things that you can't you can't account for, things that you can't be 259 00:24:56,489 --> 00:25:01,409 responsible for. Sometimes they're going to show up and rear their ugly head. And and, Lu, I'm 260 00:25:01,409 --> 00:25:06,290 coming to you with this question next. Uh, how how often do you guys have what you would call a 261 00:25:06,290 --> 00:25:12,609 predictable day out there at the Foster terminal? They are few and far between. 262 00:25:12,890 --> 00:25:19,659 Amen. Because, I mean, I'm going to speak for Sara. She just stepped out to take a call from a driver. 263 00:25:20,060 --> 00:25:26,939 Um, you know, dispatch, you got load canceling, you got loads adding, and they're within 264 00:25:26,939 --> 00:25:31,579 minutes. You know, you might have three loads. Cancel. The next thing you know, the phone rings 265 00:25:31,580 --> 00:25:38,420 and, oh, we got emergency loads here, here and here. So. And then, you know, you're sitting here and the 266 00:25:38,420 --> 00:25:44,819 day is going smooth, and then you get a call from a driver that says, I've just been hit head 267 00:25:44,859 --> 00:25:51,739 on. Oh, and, you know, I mean, those things happen. And some days it's 268 00:25:51,740 --> 00:25:57,739 an emotional roller coaster. I'll be. Honest. I imagine so. I imagine so do you ever. I think about, 269 00:25:57,740 --> 00:26:02,740 uh, you know, I'm a big, uh, Ninja Turtles fan from back in the day, the original movies. And there's a 270 00:26:02,740 --> 00:26:08,539 part in Ninja Turtles two where one of the guys looks at the other one and he says it's quiet, a 271 00:26:08,540 --> 00:26:15,109 little too quiet. Do you ever have those? It's a little too quiet. Do not say that word. Or even our 272 00:26:15,109 --> 00:26:20,989 terminal manager. And he's great. We, uh. He'll say something about Boy it. Or when he first started, 273 00:26:21,029 --> 00:26:26,389 he'd be like, boy, it's quiet too. And we're like, you do not say those words. Yep. You keep that word 274 00:26:26,390 --> 00:26:33,149 to yourself. We will hurt you. I like it. I see, I kind of figured that that's like, if if things are 275 00:26:33,150 --> 00:26:38,469 quiet, you have to leave that to the imagination. You don't say anything, you don't identify it 276 00:26:38,469 --> 00:26:45,029 because that's what immediately makes it go not quiet. Right? Exactly, exactly. You know, 277 00:26:45,229 --> 00:26:51,469 it's a flip of a coin. We can sit here for hours and nothing, and then all of a sudden it's just 278 00:26:51,469 --> 00:26:58,429 one phone call after another for hours. So, Lu, when you start your day, uh, coffee 279 00:26:58,430 --> 00:27:04,149 first or chaos first? Because your job, your job has a lot going on. So coffee or chaos? When you 280 00:27:04,150 --> 00:27:10,909 first turn the lights on. It's usually chaos. And it's Diet Coke. I don't do coffee. Okay. 281 00:27:10,910 --> 00:27:17,249 That's fine. So it's usually, you know, it's a day like this morning. Um, 282 00:27:18,329 --> 00:27:24,369 I had a call. A driver got to someplace else that we normally don't load out of. His truck wasn't in 283 00:27:24,370 --> 00:27:31,289 the system, which was our fault. But that's how that started out. And then 284 00:27:31,329 --> 00:27:38,170 yesterday morning, a guy was trying to unload, and there was a hole in the silo pipe. So that was the 285 00:27:38,170 --> 00:27:44,969 4:00 call. Wow. Then yesterday you had to call with what? There was three hours load time, three 286 00:27:44,969 --> 00:27:50,929 loads, three hours waiting to get loaded, and then that's just continue throughout the day. Then we 287 00:27:50,930 --> 00:27:57,769 got a phone call from another terminal manager with a gentleman having a little issue, 288 00:27:57,770 --> 00:28:04,049 and we had to go rescue him. And like I said, it's just one thing after another. You just never know 289 00:28:04,050 --> 00:28:08,929 how the ball is going to roll. And honestly, that's probably what kept me staying all these years 290 00:28:08,930 --> 00:28:13,739 because it is not something that you come in and you do the same repetitive job day after day 291 00:28:13,740 --> 00:28:18,979 after day, right? Right. It's kind of, uh, you have to be comfortable being Chicken Little. The sky is 292 00:28:18,979 --> 00:28:24,299 falling sometimes, and you just have to be okay with that, right? Yep. And then you look back and 293 00:28:24,300 --> 00:28:29,098 you think, oh my gosh, how in the world did we ever get through that? And we do. You do every single. 294 00:28:29,099 --> 00:28:34,699 Day on to the next chaos that comes about. And I think that's testament to the people that you 295 00:28:34,699 --> 00:28:38,019 talked about earlier when you when I asked you how long you've been here, you said it's the 296 00:28:38,020 --> 00:28:43,300 people that keep me here and that's why you can get through. Sky's falling moments is when you 297 00:28:43,300 --> 00:28:49,179 have a really good group of people. Right. Right. You know, like our terminal manager. He's great. We 298 00:28:49,180 --> 00:28:55,819 can go. He leaves us alone, basically. But when we need him, he has our 299 00:28:55,819 --> 00:29:02,819 back. Yeah. He is our calming to our fire. Yeah. He's very calm and very where I'm very 300 00:29:02,860 --> 00:29:09,539 emotional and like, oh, boy, here we go. So. And you know, he never raises his voice. He's very quiet. 301 00:29:09,629 --> 00:29:16,470 It's all one demeanor and. Yeah. And then we know, you know, it's our terminal manager's not here. 302 00:29:16,470 --> 00:29:22,429 Then we got back up in Plain City. Like I said, you can get Ahold of any of the owners. Andrea. Brian. 303 00:29:22,429 --> 00:29:29,270 Brad. They're just there for. Any time. They are there. That's awesome. I 304 00:29:29,270 --> 00:29:34,549 love hearing it. I love hearing it. Okay, I want to kick this back to the drivers a little bit. Um, 305 00:29:34,709 --> 00:29:40,389 kind of talking about the reality of the job itself. I know, you know, I've, I've been making 306 00:29:40,390 --> 00:29:46,069 podcasts for truck drivers for going on four years now. And, uh, there's some things that are 307 00:29:46,070 --> 00:29:51,789 very constant, Mike and Bryan with every driver and they're things that are out of the driver's 308 00:29:51,790 --> 00:29:58,309 control. And I wonder which one of these four things, uh, cost you the most time out there. And 309 00:29:58,310 --> 00:30:02,910 these are all things that are out of your control for the most part. Uh, Mike, I'll start with you 310 00:30:02,950 --> 00:30:09,529 here. Which one of these things can cost you the most time? Weather load delays, equipment 311 00:30:09,530 --> 00:30:16,330 issues, or customer sites. Or traffic or customers. I'd say traffic. I mean what the 312 00:30:16,330 --> 00:30:22,169 construction. Go on and say this truck. I don't think it's one of the one of the answer, but. Go 313 00:30:22,170 --> 00:30:27,209 ahead and throw. It in there. That's the one in construction. And uh, like I say, most of our 314 00:30:27,210 --> 00:30:32,169 customers were pretty regular customer. Do we I don't know, no room for their product or something 315 00:30:32,170 --> 00:30:37,329 like that. But it's mostly going to be construction issues, traffic, that type of thing. 316 00:30:37,330 --> 00:30:42,369 That's where you're losing the most time on a daily basis. It sounds like. Mike. So Bryan, same 317 00:30:42,369 --> 00:30:47,929 question to you, my friend. Um, would you say that same thing as Mike said, like traffic and 318 00:30:47,930 --> 00:30:54,049 construction, weather delays, customer sites? What do you see yourself losing the most time, uh, 319 00:30:54,050 --> 00:31:00,009 dealing with that's out of your control on a typical day? Um, I'd say for us, it's probably 320 00:31:00,009 --> 00:31:03,769 customer sites. You know, we do a lot of these road jobs, especially this time of year and throughout 321 00:31:03,770 --> 00:31:09,219 the summer. And, uh, when you're dealing with road jobs, equipment is going to break. Things are going 322 00:31:09,220 --> 00:31:16,139 to get delayed for different reasons. Most of the time for us it's I mean, traffic can get 323 00:31:16,140 --> 00:31:22,059 involved with it, but typically it's it's customer sites. Like today we uh, we all got pushed back 324 00:31:22,059 --> 00:31:27,738 probably about an hour to an hour and a half before we could unload from our original, um, 325 00:31:27,739 --> 00:31:32,899 delivery time. But, I mean, it's just one of those things, like I said, comes with territory. You just 326 00:31:32,900 --> 00:31:39,260 gotta stay on your toes. Adapt, overcome and conquer and keep it moving. Sure, sure. 327 00:31:39,660 --> 00:31:45,619 Uh, this is something else I got for you guys here, and I. I don't want you to pull any punches. I know 328 00:31:45,619 --> 00:31:50,179 you've got Lu and Sara listening on the other end, and maybe this is a learning experience for 329 00:31:50,180 --> 00:31:57,099 everybody here, but. Uh, what is a loaded question, right? What's there now? It could 330 00:31:57,100 --> 00:32:02,779 be, but I think I think it's a question that that, uh, offers us all the opportunity to grow within 331 00:32:02,779 --> 00:32:08,149 the positions that we do. And so from the driver's standpoint, Mike, I'll come to you first. What's 332 00:32:08,150 --> 00:32:12,629 something you wish that the office staff understood better about what you go through 333 00:32:12,630 --> 00:32:19,390 during the day? Not really, really sure how to answer it. Uh, probably just the, the the delays on 334 00:32:19,390 --> 00:32:24,068 time and and sometimes, like I say, uh, the customer, you know, like they'll have room or something like 335 00:32:24,069 --> 00:32:31,029 that. I that makes sense. Yeah, sure. Communicate with them. But, uh, I office actually does a 336 00:32:31,030 --> 00:32:35,150 really good job. I'm not downplaying. I don't want to downplay them because they do a great job of 337 00:32:35,150 --> 00:32:40,790 what they're what they're doing, you know? So. Oh, 100%. And and that's that's definitely not why I 338 00:32:40,790 --> 00:32:45,029 asked the question. I don't want anybody to think here that I, I think the office has got some 339 00:32:45,029 --> 00:32:50,389 shortcomings. I already understand what we call Lu and Sara. And so I don't want to get on their 340 00:32:50,390 --> 00:32:55,990 bad side. I'm not trying to say anything like that. But. Uh, but I do know that, you know, there's so 341 00:32:55,990 --> 00:33:01,029 much difference between the two jobs that you guys do, right? There's the driving and the office 342 00:33:01,029 --> 00:33:06,559 side are are night and day from one another. So, Bryan, I'll kick that same question over to you. Is 343 00:33:06,560 --> 00:33:11,478 there anything you wish that that, uh, the office staff in general understood a little bit better 344 00:33:11,479 --> 00:33:16,679 about what you're going through each day? Yeah. It's always their fault. No, no. I'm joking. Um. 345 00:33:17,599 --> 00:33:24,559 That's what I'm talking about. Oh, man, I don't know. I don't know how you did that, 346 00:33:24,560 --> 00:33:29,559 but when you said that, my phone actually physically wiggled as Sara and Lu responded on 347 00:33:29,560 --> 00:33:36,399 the other end. So. But go on, keep us all on our phones. That's all. Yeah. 348 00:33:36,399 --> 00:33:43,159 Um. No, I mean, really, really. I think the only thing that can become hard for the office in any 349 00:33:43,160 --> 00:33:48,559 situation is just the time delay. You know, just just like for us, it's hard to to settle and 350 00:33:48,559 --> 00:33:52,799 predict exactly how the day is going to go. So sometimes that's going to push everything else 351 00:33:52,799 --> 00:33:59,559 behind. Um, I wouldn't say that they don't necessarily get it. Um, but I'd say that 352 00:33:59,559 --> 00:34:03,459 probably falls on communication. You know, we got to communicate when we're running into those 353 00:34:03,459 --> 00:34:09,418 things, so it's easier for them to do whatever they can to help finagle the schedules around or 354 00:34:09,419 --> 00:34:13,059 make the next customer understand what we may be dealing with, that we're running like two 355 00:34:13,059 --> 00:34:19,979 different loads that day. I think offices do a great job. Okay. Where our where we load out of 356 00:34:19,979 --> 00:34:26,698 and our customer is when they hold these guys up two and three hours. And our drivers, you all are 357 00:34:26,699 --> 00:34:33,539 fighting a clock. Right? Yep. And it makes it almost impossible to 358 00:34:33,539 --> 00:34:39,779 pull the two runs that our drivers are pulling. And then you get to a customer and then you're 359 00:34:39,780 --> 00:34:46,139 held up there. And we do get it in our office down here. I mean, and it frustrates 360 00:34:46,139 --> 00:34:52,539 us just as much as it does the drivers. And we start calling customers and start trying to 361 00:34:52,540 --> 00:34:59,099 figure out what are we doing, why are we sitting there three hours trying to get loaded. Mhm. Right. 362 00:34:59,139 --> 00:35:05,069 Yep. Yep. In our office. Fight for us. Fights for us up here too. Just like I said, us as drivers. We got 363 00:35:05,069 --> 00:35:09,069 to make sure that as soon as we notice that that's starting. We need to we need to call and 364 00:35:09,070 --> 00:35:14,310 make that communication clear. So that way they can start fighting for us the same way. Absolutely. 365 00:35:14,310 --> 00:35:19,389 And we can start getting this attention time, you know, then we start notifying this customer. It 366 00:35:19,389 --> 00:35:25,269 seems like it does start to help us. Hey, we're fixing to start billing detention time here for, 367 00:35:25,310 --> 00:35:30,069 you know, these guys sitting here, and then they seem to start picking up the pace a little bit? 368 00:35:30,110 --> 00:35:36,789 Sure. Absolutely, absolutely. Communication is the main thing. Absolutely. I, I totally agree. It's it's 369 00:35:36,790 --> 00:35:42,148 something that is so important and, and with the, uh, the relationship that dispatch and drivers 370 00:35:42,149 --> 00:35:48,069 have, I've always kind of looked at it as sort of like a sibling relationship. It's like a you guys, 371 00:35:48,110 --> 00:35:53,789 you have to be so in tune with one another that it can almost be uncomfortable at times because 372 00:35:53,790 --> 00:35:58,879 you know so much and you know the how the other person is working. Sometimes you might have even a 373 00:35:58,879 --> 00:36:03,638 little bit of reticence. It's like, man, I don't want to call Sara with this right now, but I have 374 00:36:03,639 --> 00:36:10,239 to, right? So it is all about the communication. If we keep that communication level at a at a high 375 00:36:10,279 --> 00:36:15,519 pace, then these problems start to help solve themselves through that communication. Right? 376 00:36:15,639 --> 00:36:22,599 Exactly. Can I just absolutely. You're you're more that you're you're the one at the, 377 00:36:22,639 --> 00:36:29,439 at the customer. So you get go to the chain. So the chain of command to your boss. And then they can 378 00:36:29,440 --> 00:36:34,719 get with the meal like iron meal and get to them to get somebody involved in calling the customer 379 00:36:34,760 --> 00:36:41,519 to get the ball rolling. But they already started on it the better. Sure, absolutely. And even 380 00:36:42,120 --> 00:36:46,959 not so much the customer. It's up to even the drivers keeping in touch with their and saying, 381 00:36:46,960 --> 00:36:53,878 hey, two weeks from now on Friday, I need all that helps the communication there help 382 00:36:53,919 --> 00:37:00,899 balance things out as we know we're getting close to the 27th. That we got three guys off. 383 00:37:01,259 --> 00:37:08,259 So we walked on picking up more loads than we know we can handle for that day. Sure. 384 00:37:08,299 --> 00:37:14,299 So versus a guy you know, which we know, emergencies happen and you don't always get to 385 00:37:14,300 --> 00:37:21,059 plan for them. But the communication between the driver and the office helps so 386 00:37:21,060 --> 00:37:27,819 much. Yeah, I can tell. I can really. Tell. It's it's interesting. Um, I, I 387 00:37:27,860 --> 00:37:34,579 kind of wonder, you know, with the problems that you'll juggle Sara and Lu on a normal 388 00:37:34,580 --> 00:37:40,340 day, uh, just the things that you have to do that are just everyday tasks and everything like that. 389 00:37:40,379 --> 00:37:45,659 Um, is it is it almost like a relief when a driver calls with something like that to break you out 390 00:37:45,660 --> 00:37:50,860 of the monotony of doing the normal things? Are you excited when drivers call? Are you are you 391 00:37:50,899 --> 00:37:56,109 nervous when drivers call? Uh, what? What kind of things are going through your heads when? When you 392 00:37:56,110 --> 00:38:02,029 see a phone ring, let's say it two in the morning. Okay, well, let me just tell you that this is 393 00:38:02,030 --> 00:38:08,349 probably going to be tempered. Since. Censored. What in the hell can you possibly want now? 394 00:38:10,910 --> 00:38:17,829 To blow up. What now? Just saying. Are you safe? Are you okay? And then 395 00:38:17,829 --> 00:38:22,669 we go from there. Yep. Yep. And that's always the first question that gets asked, isn't it? Mike and 396 00:38:22,669 --> 00:38:27,468 Bryan, are you safe? Are you okay? Right. Yeah, absolutely. That's our main concern. We want our 397 00:38:27,469 --> 00:38:33,590 drivers safe and that they're okay. And then we'll deal with whatever comes next. In our case. What's 398 00:38:33,590 --> 00:38:39,349 so important you got to call it seven? It makes it 715 to call me. You can call it early that morning. 399 00:38:39,389 --> 00:38:45,190 You know, so probably couldn't wait for 715 to call me. Right. Right. And as long as you called the 400 00:38:45,190 --> 00:38:51,830 right person, you'll stay out of hot water. Right? That's right. So let's talk a little bit here 401 00:38:51,830 --> 00:38:57,279 about kind of where our, our worlds collide. Because I, I did also I asked the drivers, I said, 402 00:38:57,280 --> 00:39:02,279 what do you wish that, uh that the dispatch and, and the terminal side understood a little bit 403 00:39:02,279 --> 00:39:06,919 more. And I got to be honest, they took it pretty easy on you, Sara and Lu. So now you get that 404 00:39:06,919 --> 00:39:13,319 question. Um, what is your biggest frustration with drivers or what could they understand about your 405 00:39:13,320 --> 00:39:20,279 job that would kind of help the whole thing just run more smoothly? How quick loads 406 00:39:20,280 --> 00:39:26,719 come in and out? Yes. How quick things change. How much of a little buck turtle in the road can just 407 00:39:26,720 --> 00:39:33,320 blow up the whole situation? I mean, you know, understand emergencies happen. 408 00:39:33,320 --> 00:39:40,240 If that emergency is going to happen, I should be your first point of contact to say, hey, 409 00:39:40,280 --> 00:39:45,879 this is just what happened. This is what I can do. This is what I can't do. Instead of waiting until, 410 00:39:46,040 --> 00:39:52,019 you know, close to that second load time appointment and call me and say, oh, by the way, I 411 00:39:52,019 --> 00:39:57,899 had this happen this morning and now I can't cover the cloak. Let us get ahead of the ball game. 412 00:39:57,939 --> 00:40:03,779 Let us get to the customer before the customer comes to us and says, hey, where's this driver? 413 00:40:03,820 --> 00:40:09,139 Where's. Why are we not getting this load today? And then we got to call the driver and find out, 414 00:40:09,419 --> 00:40:14,860 you know, just like the guy the driver said communication. You mean. And you got. That first 415 00:40:14,860 --> 00:40:21,579 hiccup. Let your office know so they can get ahead of the ball game and run a bucker for 416 00:40:21,579 --> 00:40:28,219 you. Got it. Yep. Mike, Bryan, hearing that. Hearing that from the ladies. Yeah. Anything to add? No, I 417 00:40:28,220 --> 00:40:32,498 mean any any of the greatest teams. The biggest thing that they are going to have is clear, 418 00:40:32,499 --> 00:40:39,019 concise, great communication. So I mean, yes, sir. Just to double back on what they're saying is the 419 00:40:39,019 --> 00:40:42,579 faster you can get ahead of it, the more preventive you can be. They may be able to pull 420 00:40:42,580 --> 00:40:46,779 the driver that got off earlier to go run that second load for them. Like they said, they've got 421 00:40:46,780 --> 00:40:50,428 other drivers that if they've got the time they can call them, they know they're going to cover 422 00:40:50,429 --> 00:40:56,189 for them, but if they don't know, they can't do so. Being able to make that communication happen as 423 00:40:56,189 --> 00:41:00,869 soon as you realize, hey, I'm typically here for 15 minutes, but it looks like I'm going to be here 424 00:41:00,870 --> 00:41:07,109 for an hour. I may be running close to my time, depending on what the the distance is from from 425 00:41:07,229 --> 00:41:12,749 your loading spot. So wherever your Chinese location is, you know that that helps the office 426 00:41:12,790 --> 00:41:16,829 get ahead of it and be more preventive to make sure that that customer still gets the load to 427 00:41:16,830 --> 00:41:21,349 find out how, like how dire it is that they get that load, they may be able to put it off till the 428 00:41:21,350 --> 00:41:27,590 next day. Um, but if they have somebody that can just pick up and run it for you and, and save that 429 00:41:27,590 --> 00:41:30,909 dispatch, then I'm sure that that's what their priority is going to be in what they're going to 430 00:41:30,909 --> 00:41:35,749 do. But if they don't know, then obviously they you can't fix what you don't know is broken. 431 00:41:35,790 --> 00:41:42,309 Absolutely. Absolutely, absolutely. All right. It's never good when the customer starts calling you. 432 00:41:42,350 --> 00:41:49,039 It just helps when we can call the customer and prepare them. That's right. Sure. I agree. 433 00:41:49,080 --> 00:41:55,319 So how important Lu is? The, uh. Or excuse me, are the customer relationships that you've formed out 434 00:41:55,320 --> 00:42:00,878 there? Because working there for for 13, 14 years now, I'm willing I'm willing to say that you 435 00:42:00,879 --> 00:42:05,639 probably have some really good, uh, working relationships with some of your customers where 436 00:42:05,639 --> 00:42:10,359 if you do get the ability to get out in front of this, you can smooth it over before the driver 437 00:42:10,399 --> 00:42:17,039 even has to deal with anything. Would that be accurate? Absolutely. I do all the we run 438 00:42:17,040 --> 00:42:23,438 product down at the rail yard, Cincinnati rail yard and that um, even though Sara really wants 439 00:42:23,439 --> 00:42:30,199 that job, I'm just going to hold on to it. I mean, that job, I think 440 00:42:30,279 --> 00:42:36,840 so, you know. I have worked with the lady that handled the rail 441 00:42:36,840 --> 00:42:43,398 yard for 14 years, and me and her have a great relationship, and she 442 00:42:43,919 --> 00:42:50,659 helps me and I help her. And if we see something not going 443 00:42:50,699 --> 00:42:56,499 right, even though she has other carriers in there, she calls me and we work together to where we can 444 00:42:56,499 --> 00:43:02,339 balance it out. And yes, we have a great relationship. That's great, that's great. And it 445 00:43:02,339 --> 00:43:07,019 just makes everything work so much better. You know, we could all come to work pissed off every 446 00:43:07,060 --> 00:43:12,699 day, but that doesn't make the day any shorter. And I think if we just have a little bit of patience 447 00:43:12,700 --> 00:43:18,100 with everybody and, you know, understand that communication is as important as you guys have 448 00:43:18,100 --> 00:43:22,939 just said it is. Uh, we can we can make this whole operation run without a hitch. Man, you guys are 449 00:43:22,940 --> 00:43:28,139 all really good at your jobs. You've all been doing it for a long time, so, uh, I hesitate to 450 00:43:28,180 --> 00:43:34,019 think anything can surprise you, but I use that as a segue to my next part of our interview here, 451 00:43:34,020 --> 00:43:40,379 which is by far my favorite part. This is when we get to the stories. Now, Bryan and Mike, I know you 452 00:43:40,379 --> 00:43:46,789 guys have got wild stories, and I'm coming to you for them here in a second. But Lu and Sara 453 00:43:47,350 --> 00:43:53,149 being where you're at. Dispatch, I know that you've got some stories that you start out at a dinner 454 00:43:53,149 --> 00:43:56,869 table when you're going to tell them and you say to your family members or friends, you are not 455 00:43:56,870 --> 00:44:02,109 going to believe this. I want one of those stories right now. Can you give me a you're not going to 456 00:44:02,149 --> 00:44:07,909 believe this story that happened to you in your tenure here at Bulk. And, Lu, I'll start with you. 457 00:44:07,909 --> 00:44:14,589 But, Sara, if you've got one to lay it on me. Well, the most vivid 458 00:44:14,590 --> 00:44:20,789 one is when our guys drive their personal cars. And Sara wasn't even here, man. 459 00:44:21,429 --> 00:44:28,229 They parked their cars in the lot. And then that's where they say, well, we had a driver come in 460 00:44:28,230 --> 00:44:34,708 one night and our old terminal manager, he was not the nicest person in the world. But you know what 461 00:44:34,709 --> 00:44:40,988 I've come to know after 14 years? No wonder he was mean. No wonder. 462 00:44:42,360 --> 00:44:48,119 And this driver came in with a trailer and went back in and thought he hit something, but just 463 00:44:48,120 --> 00:44:53,519 gave it more gas and pushed this guy's personal car all the way over a bank. Oh. 464 00:44:55,000 --> 00:45:01,959 Wow. That's not good. Oh, no. I don't know how you're supposed to follow that. With our story. 465 00:45:01,999 --> 00:45:08,800 That's what I'm. Thinking. Oh, we had a turkey that came through the front glass and ended up in the 466 00:45:08,800 --> 00:45:15,600 passenger seat. And then the driver gets out and he's sitting in the passenger window, just kind of 467 00:45:15,679 --> 00:45:22,080 looking around like, what in the hell happened to me? Oh, that's. Wild. 468 00:45:22,199 --> 00:45:27,918 Turkeys are no joke. You know, there, of course, lots of feathers a little bit less dense than what 469 00:45:27,919 --> 00:45:33,840 they look. But that is not the first story I've heard of a turkey going through a windshield. I've 470 00:45:33,840 --> 00:45:40,759 also heard a guy hit a tweet bird and the the beak actually pierced his radiator. 471 00:45:40,759 --> 00:45:46,169 And he was. He was shut down after hitting just a little tiny bird. So we got to be careful with it, 472 00:45:46,209 --> 00:45:53,128 with the avian variety out there because, uh, crazy stuff can happen. Wow. That's it's. 473 00:45:53,129 --> 00:45:57,888 Crazy. Like, we had a driver that. I don't know what happened. He got out of his truck. He was coming in 474 00:45:57,889 --> 00:46:04,809 the office. The truck started rolling. He tried to catch the truck. Um, thank goodness. He 475 00:46:04,810 --> 00:46:11,609 tripped over his feet and fell before the truck got him and had busted up his face. Really bad. 476 00:46:11,610 --> 00:46:18,089 Calls me on Saturday. Me and my granddaughter comes down here. Oh, there was blood 477 00:46:18,090 --> 00:46:22,529 everywhere. I mean, you just don't know what you're going to get. Sure. That one sounds like it could 478 00:46:22,570 --> 00:46:29,009 have ended up a lot worse than what it did. It could have ended. Up so bad. So bad. And it I mean, 479 00:46:29,010 --> 00:46:35,889 it really wasn't as bad as what it looked like, but. But still scary. Yeah. 480 00:46:35,930 --> 00:46:41,669 Terribly wrong. Still really scary. Okay. All right. Well, that's. You see why I went to her? I went to 481 00:46:41,709 --> 00:46:47,989 Lu first for a very good reason. All right. I got a follow. Up. I knew she had him. Now, is Sara with 482 00:46:47,990 --> 00:46:53,510 us right now or is she on the phone? I don't know, I'm here. Yeah. Sara, do you have any stories you'd 483 00:46:53,510 --> 00:47:00,349 like to tell from your six years here at Bulk? Most funniest one I think I can think of. 484 00:47:00,350 --> 00:47:05,870 Right off the top of my head is myself and a mechanic chased a kitten through the parking lot 485 00:47:05,909 --> 00:47:12,149 through trailers for over an hour to finally retrieve this kitten, only to tear us from 486 00:47:12,149 --> 00:47:18,349 shreds up and down both ways. Didn't want to be caught. I could have told you after that first 487 00:47:18,350 --> 00:47:25,109 half hour. She looked like. She had scaled the. Prison. Wall, the barbed wire. So now when 488 00:47:25,110 --> 00:47:30,349 kittens get dropped in the parking lot, they get fed in the corner and hope they survive. Okay. All 489 00:47:30,389 --> 00:47:35,509 right, well, uh, you know what? I've. I've been to a lot of terminals that have yard cats. Uh, and they 490 00:47:35,510 --> 00:47:41,918 don't run on anybody's schedule but their own, and I. Exactly. Kind of sounds like that cat was good 491 00:47:41,959 --> 00:47:47,119 being feral until you guys got your hands on it. And then it needed to let you know. Hey, this isn't 492 00:47:47,120 --> 00:47:53,438 the lifestyle I'm looking for. That is very true. We're in a really rural 493 00:47:53,439 --> 00:47:59,878 area, so we get lots of dogs dropped off cats, especially cats. 494 00:48:00,519 --> 00:48:07,359 And so, I mean, we don't want them to get hit because we are on a main highway too. So 495 00:48:07,360 --> 00:48:12,559 we tried to get the animal shelters and stuff involved or, you know, like the kittens. We try to 496 00:48:12,600 --> 00:48:18,999 find somebody that wants the kittens. But as far as cats, after Sara's little escapade, we pretty 497 00:48:18,999 --> 00:48:24,439 much just feed them. Yeah, we feed them and let them go on their little merry ways. Yeah. And if 498 00:48:24,440 --> 00:48:28,879 not, we're going to wrap ourselves in bubble wrap first before we go out there trying to rescue it. 499 00:48:28,879 --> 00:48:35,600 Right? Yeah. I'm not. Sure how we're going to explain these injuries to Andrea. But. Well, 500 00:48:35,689 --> 00:48:42,688 She'll. This the baby bobcat? Yeah. Yeah. Well, Mike and 501 00:48:42,689 --> 00:48:48,449 Bryan, I know that those stories are hard to follow, but, uh, wild stories from, uh, from your time 502 00:48:48,449 --> 00:48:54,128 driving. I know they're out there. What's something that, uh, if, again, I like the idea of you're 503 00:48:54,129 --> 00:48:58,769 sitting around the, uh, the table with your family or your friends, and you're starting the the story 504 00:48:58,770 --> 00:49:05,689 by saying you're not going to believe this. Uh, Mike, do you have one of those for us? Uh, mine. 505 00:49:05,850 --> 00:49:11,610 Mine is a foul one also. I was going to, uh. Of course, Corpus Christi was close to the beach, but, 506 00:49:11,610 --> 00:49:16,569 uh, me and another driver with four cell phones, and then we just had CBS, and we were driving down 507 00:49:16,570 --> 00:49:23,369 through there, and, uh, egret, the tall, uh, egret. Uh, birds usually out in the pasture. But anyway, one 508 00:49:23,370 --> 00:49:28,649 of them had hit my windshield and they got caught. And somehow or another like that, that time we had, 509 00:49:28,649 --> 00:49:33,489 uh, brackets for the mirrors on there, like, they're the plastic one now that had brackets on there. 510 00:49:33,689 --> 00:49:39,629 And somehow or another, he got it. Got his neck inside that bracket. It was in front of my mirror. 511 00:49:39,709 --> 00:49:44,469 And I told my buddy, I said, hey, hey, slow down just a minute. I want you to look over here. He looked 512 00:49:44,469 --> 00:49:51,350 over here. I've been bird hunting over here, so. Oh, and. Those are. Those. Those 513 00:49:51,389 --> 00:49:56,069 egrets can get pretty big, right? Yeah. I covered the whole and covered the whole mirror. And I was 514 00:49:56,069 --> 00:50:00,669 hanging down there, just flopping in the air. Then we pull over at the rest area for the evening. 515 00:50:00,670 --> 00:50:07,149 There it was. The, there uh, fell out. It was gone the next, next morning, you know. But it was quite 516 00:50:07,149 --> 00:50:12,510 the time I'd been been bird hunting. You know, but. You never know what's going to happen out there 517 00:50:12,550 --> 00:50:18,550 on the open road. Huh, sir? Bryan, how about you, man? How about you? Any crazy stories like that? 518 00:50:19,830 --> 00:50:26,110 Uh, yeah. There was, uh, so I was it was the end of my day. I was headed back to the yard. And we're 519 00:50:26,110 --> 00:50:32,839 not in a very rural area, so I'm watching, and I'm on a two lane highway, four 520 00:50:32,839 --> 00:50:38,398 lane highway, and I'm watching this hawk come across the median. I'm like, of course this is how 521 00:50:38,399 --> 00:50:43,879 it's going to pick up a tight because it's flying a little low. I'm Hawks are usually pretty good. 522 00:50:43,919 --> 00:50:50,438 Yeah well he didn't. And he clipped like the upper passenger part of my, 523 00:50:50,639 --> 00:50:57,559 uh, windshield. The Hawk was fine, but when I looked over, he had dropped a big four foot corn 524 00:50:57,559 --> 00:51:04,399 snake, and it had wrapped around my mirror. What? Um. It would have been amazing. Nope. 525 00:51:04,399 --> 00:51:09,398 Gone. Oh. The snake. The snake was dead. Um. And before I could get down the off ramp, it had 526 00:51:09,399 --> 00:51:15,919 already fallen off of of my tractor. But I did have to take the water hose out, because the whole 527 00:51:15,919 --> 00:51:21,399 side of my tractor was covered in blood from the corn snake from house when the hawk got it. So 528 00:51:21,399 --> 00:51:27,039 that was, uh, that was pretty fun. I mean, I was only doing like 45 mile an hour because I was coming 529 00:51:27,040 --> 00:51:32,889 down the off ramp and, uh, the hawk clipped the windshield, dropped its food, and dinner was 530 00:51:32,889 --> 00:51:39,169 hanging off my mirror. So I did it. I think now I. Think I can 531 00:51:39,169 --> 00:51:45,769 comfortably. Yeah. You want to see a fat girl run? You just show me a snake. We're gone. 532 00:51:47,570 --> 00:51:53,609 That's it. I'm the same way. I hate them. They can walk, but they ain't got legs. It's not right. And, 533 00:51:53,610 --> 00:52:00,449 uh. I can. I can comfortably say, Bryan, that Hawk was trying to gain altitude. It just bit off 534 00:52:00,449 --> 00:52:07,369 more than it could chew. Uh, very literally. Yeah. Uh, that's great guys. Well, listen, this 535 00:52:07,370 --> 00:52:12,729 has been an awesome conversation. I love ending with the funny stories there, because I think it 536 00:52:12,729 --> 00:52:18,529 really does put a bow on this thing and say, you just never really can know what's going to happen 537 00:52:18,530 --> 00:52:24,850 in a day in the life at Bulk and Spur. And I greatly appreciate all your guys's time. Uh, for those of 538 00:52:24,850 --> 00:52:28,809 you that are making your first appearance on the show today, Mike already knows this. But I like to 539 00:52:28,909 --> 00:52:34,829 give everybody a chance to just wrap everything up with some final thoughts. And for those of you 540 00:52:34,830 --> 00:52:39,589 that haven't done this before, your Final Thoughts segment can be anything you want. If you want to 541 00:52:39,590 --> 00:52:43,949 shout out other employees, you want to say hi to family. If there's anything that we left on the 542 00:52:43,949 --> 00:52:49,629 table that you didn't get to say that you want to, now's the time to say it. Uh, Mike, since you are 543 00:52:49,629 --> 00:52:53,869 versed in this, I'm going to start our Final Thoughts segment with you, my friend. Thank you for 544 00:52:53,870 --> 00:52:59,509 the time today. Uh, final thoughts from you before we let you go. Yes, sir. Thank you. Thank you for 545 00:52:59,509 --> 00:53:06,189 inviting me back. And, uh, uh, I think it's neat. Neat round table with, uh, office, office 546 00:53:06,189 --> 00:53:12,989 personnel and and the drivers. I think that's a great idea. And had fun. Fun, uh, discussion. And 547 00:53:12,989 --> 00:53:18,148 everybody stay safe out there. Yeah, absolutely. You stay safe to watch out for those egrets. Okay. 548 00:53:18,790 --> 00:53:24,109 Absolutely. Yes, sir. Thanks, Mike. Bryan, on to you for your final thoughts, my friend. 549 00:53:25,350 --> 00:53:31,039 Um, yeah. So, I mean, huge appreciation to both themselves. Uh, I had been out of the truck for a 550 00:53:31,039 --> 00:53:36,799 couple of years doing the the job I was at before where I was. I was doing IT in prison. Um, I had 551 00:53:36,799 --> 00:53:42,520 never, never ran any, uh, pneumatic trailers or anything. They still gave me a chance. Put me 552 00:53:42,520 --> 00:53:49,319 through the training. Um, just in the short year of being here, I've been able to move 553 00:53:49,319 --> 00:53:55,440 my then fiance and our kids in together. Um, we've got married, so them giving me the opportunity has 554 00:53:55,440 --> 00:54:01,199 definitely, uh, allowed a lot of things that may not have happened had I not got the opportunity. 555 00:54:01,200 --> 00:54:07,878 So big appreciation to them. Um. Big thanks. Big thanks to the family for sticking around why, uh, 556 00:54:08,080 --> 00:54:12,919 I got used to the new job, you know, I was getting up at 8 a.m. and then had to start getting up at 557 00:54:12,960 --> 00:54:17,919 two, 3 a.m., so there was a big adjustment for everybody to make. Big thanks to you for having me 558 00:54:17,919 --> 00:54:23,320 on the podcast. For the ladies to Mike. Um, it was a great conversation. Look forward to potentially 559 00:54:23,360 --> 00:54:28,409 having more in the future. Absolutely, man. Absolutely. You're welcome back anytime. And I've 560 00:54:28,409 --> 00:54:33,050 got one more round of applause for you to say congratulations on the new marriage, man. Hope 561 00:54:33,050 --> 00:54:37,369 everything's going well there. I appreciate. It. Thank you. Thank you. Absolutely. It's an exciting 562 00:54:37,409 --> 00:54:42,649 time in life. And to find a job that can actually make those things happen for you. Getting into a 563 00:54:42,649 --> 00:54:47,729 new place, getting everybody the same spot. It's a special feeling, and we all deserve it. All right. 564 00:54:47,729 --> 00:54:53,530 So great. Thank you for sharing that Bryan. That's awesome man. And again. Awesome. You're welcome back 565 00:54:53,530 --> 00:54:58,489 here. Any time everybody that comes on this show is welcome back. Nobody's gotten under my skin yet, 566 00:54:58,489 --> 00:55:04,489 I promise. Uh, Lu, let's go to you for your final thoughts. Thank you so much for your time today. I 567 00:55:04,489 --> 00:55:08,888 hope you enjoyed your time here on the show. Uh, final thoughts before we let you get back to your 568 00:55:08,889 --> 00:55:15,889 busy day. Um, you know, Bulk Transit. You're not going to find anybody, any 569 00:55:15,889 --> 00:55:21,609 company. I don't think that is as compassionate about treating you as family as they do. Me and 570 00:55:21,610 --> 00:55:28,469 Sara both worked here during the Covid. I had just gotten custody of five of my grandchildren 571 00:55:28,470 --> 00:55:35,189 for an emergency situation and the schools were closed. As Sara has children 572 00:55:35,189 --> 00:55:41,989 too, they understand that you have a home life and we were able to juggle everything around 573 00:55:41,989 --> 00:55:48,229 and still get our work done. And Bulk Transit is 100% behind your family life too. 574 00:55:48,790 --> 00:55:53,789 Well said there. And you know, drawing on that experience, working during Covid, getting your 575 00:55:53,790 --> 00:55:59,629 custody, your grandkids. None of that stuff is easy to go through and also have to worry about work 576 00:55:59,629 --> 00:56:04,030 as well. But it sounds like it was made a little bit easier on you because of the place you work. 577 00:56:04,069 --> 00:56:11,029 Lu. They take a lot of stress off of ya, especially if you have children. I mean, I raised 578 00:56:11,030 --> 00:56:16,590 both of my kids while I worked here, and then I raised my grandkids, too. I've got one left. She'll 579 00:56:16,629 --> 00:56:23,160 be 18 in January. Wow. And, um, I don't think I could have done it 580 00:56:23,160 --> 00:56:29,239 anywhere else. That's amazing. That's I. You know what, Brian? Andrea. Brad, I know you're listening. 581 00:56:29,239 --> 00:56:33,638 That's some pretty high praise right there. That just came from Lu. Thank you so much, Lu, for your 582 00:56:33,639 --> 00:56:39,119 time. Uh, Sara. Thank you. You're welcome. And, of course, you guys are welcome back on this show 583 00:56:39,120 --> 00:56:45,279 anytime. We'd love to have two bitches in dispatch. I can't believe I just said that. I don't believe 584 00:56:45,319 --> 00:56:51,519 I have a very high opinion of you, but it is a name that you kind of own. So, uh, I appreciate you 585 00:56:51,520 --> 00:56:56,159 guys playing along with me there. Um, Sara, can we get some final thoughts from you before we let 586 00:56:56,159 --> 00:57:01,959 you get back to it? Yeah, I'm going to kind of. Go off the loose. Here. I mean, I couldn't ask. For a 587 00:57:01,959 --> 00:57:07,398 better place to work for. I mean. They. Have commentated anything that we needed, you know, kid 588 00:57:07,399 --> 00:57:13,599 wise, you know, leaving, taking to the doctor, going from there like, is that eight ball games, the 589 00:57:13,600 --> 00:57:19,198 whole nine yards. I mean, Andrea and Brian. And Brad are. Excellent to work for. I mean, anytime we have 590 00:57:19,199 --> 00:57:24,570 a problem, all we have to do is pick up a phone and they answer and they help us the best to, you 591 00:57:24,570 --> 00:57:31,049 know, their ability to be able to help it. Well said there, Sara. Thank you so much for your time. 592 00:57:31,210 --> 00:57:37,408 Sara Litzinger, Lu Ann Saunders, Mike Upchurch, Bryan Alexander. You guys knocked it out of the 593 00:57:37,409 --> 00:57:42,409 park today. Great job. Thank you so much for your time. We'll get you all back here on always 594 00:57:42,409 --> 00:57:49,009 pneumatic. Never static again soon okay. Appreciate it. Thanks, guys. Thank you. And you're 595 00:57:49,729 --> 00:57:56,570 safe out there on the road. Thank you. No more snakes. Amen to that. Yes. No 596 00:57:56,570 --> 00:57:57,208 more snakes. 597 00:58:07,490 --> 00:58:14,009 Great stuff there, Bryan, Mike, Sara, and Lu. Thank you all so much. That was a fantastic 598 00:58:14,010 --> 00:58:20,899 interview. I love episodes like this because this right here is all the stuff that you don't see. 599 00:58:21,100 --> 00:58:25,860 Uh, everybody sees the truck going down the road, right? We all see that. In fact, many of us four 600 00:58:25,860 --> 00:58:32,539 wheelers get frustrated by it. And, uh, that's a big no no, but the things that nobody sees. How about 601 00:58:32,539 --> 00:58:37,939 the 3 a.m. wake ups? How about the phone calls that start with, you're not gonna like this? Uh, the 602 00:58:37,940 --> 00:58:42,659 load that changed halfway through your day, or the dispatch office that just went from dead quiet to 603 00:58:42,700 --> 00:58:48,979 absolute chaos in 30s. And I gotta say, after hearing this today, I don't think there's a single 604 00:58:48,980 --> 00:58:54,379 person listening to this that would trade jobs for the day. Drivers are out there dealing with 605 00:58:54,379 --> 00:59:01,059 traffic, customer delays, construction, weather, birds apparently just coming out of the sky and 606 00:59:01,059 --> 00:59:06,419 trying to kill them. I I've never heard I mean dropping snakes, falling snakes. That's another 607 00:59:06,420 --> 00:59:11,459 thing you're dealing with out there as a driver. What is going on? I'm good. I'll stay right here 608 00:59:11,460 --> 00:59:18,079 behind my computer and behind the mic. I appreciate you guys to no end. Okay. Uh, but then 609 00:59:18,080 --> 00:59:22,840 let's think about this from the other side of the aisle, flip it to the office. And it's not exactly 610 00:59:22,840 --> 00:59:28,199 a spa day over there either. You've got phones ringing nonstop, loads canceling and reappearing 611 00:59:28,200 --> 00:59:32,719 five minutes later, trying to stay ahead of customers, trying to stay ahead of problems, and 612 00:59:32,720 --> 00:59:39,039 trying to fix things before anybody even realizes that they've broken. And I think that's the 613 00:59:39,040 --> 00:59:45,359 biggest takeaway from this whole conversation today. This only works because everybody works so 614 00:59:45,360 --> 00:59:52,120 well together. The driver said it, the office said it. Communication is key. That's the whole 615 00:59:52,120 --> 00:59:57,120 game. Because the second communication breaks down, that's when the day turns into a full blown 616 00:59:57,120 --> 01:00:01,319 dumpster fire. And we've all been a part of those before. And look, it's still going to happen 617 01:00:01,319 --> 01:00:06,559 sometimes anyway. That's the nature of the beast. I thought Bryan said it. Well, it comes with the 618 01:00:06,559 --> 01:00:12,119 territory. You can do everything right and you can still end up with a car getting pushed down a 619 01:00:12,120 --> 01:00:18,570 hill in the lot, a turkey in your windshield. A kitten that turns into a UFC fighter. Or a 620 01:00:18,570 --> 01:00:25,569 snake. A dead snake hanging off your mirror. Which, by the way, if that happened to me, I'm just gonna 621 01:00:25,569 --> 01:00:31,369 have to have a new truck. I'm sorry, but a snake has touched it. And not just a dead snake, but a 622 01:00:31,370 --> 01:00:37,929 dead bloody snake. And I, soft hands over here don't have the wherewithal or the 623 01:00:37,970 --> 01:00:43,688 motivation to clean this up. Let's just give this to another driver. I'll take a different one. 624 01:00:43,689 --> 01:00:50,249 Everybody's fine. Okay. But through all of that, I digress. You heard something today that we hear 625 01:00:50,249 --> 01:00:56,809 over and over again here on always pneumatic, never static. People stick around 626 01:00:56,810 --> 01:01:03,409 14 years, six years. Drivers with decades in and drivers just getting started. But you heard it, 627 01:01:03,409 --> 01:01:08,569 Bryan. The guy with the least experience of the whole crew said, I love it here. I'm. I moved my 628 01:01:08,610 --> 01:01:15,339 fiancee and kids in got married. Things are going awesome. And, that's because of the people, right? 629 01:01:15,339 --> 01:01:21,259 It's not just the job's not easy. We know that. That's simple. That's simple math, right? But the 630 01:01:21,259 --> 01:01:28,179 people that do the job do it so well and communicate so well that even when things do go 631 01:01:28,180 --> 01:01:33,299 sideways and they will, you've got dispatch picking up the phone at 2 a.m., you've got drivers 632 01:01:33,300 --> 01:01:38,299 stepping up to cover loads, and you've got managers that don't panic when everything hits at 633 01:01:38,300 --> 01:01:43,299 once. That's what keeps this thing moving, and that's what keeps people here. And honestly, that's 634 01:01:43,300 --> 01:01:50,219 what makes Bulk, Bulk. So to Lu, Sara, Mike, Bryan, you guys were awesome today. Seriously, this is 635 01:01:50,219 --> 01:01:54,419 one of the episodes where people listening and especially drivers thinking about making a move 636 01:01:54,419 --> 01:01:59,500 to a different company, they're going to hear this and go, okay, that's what it's really like. We just 637 01:01:59,500 --> 01:02:05,139 heard that from the horse's mouth and that's what really matters. So we greatly appreciate you guys 638 01:02:05,139 --> 01:02:10,819 for coming on today and being honest, sharing the stories, even the slightly terrifying wildlife 639 01:02:10,819 --> 01:02:17,080 stories. Um, and for everybody listening, stay safe out there. Obviously, drivers keep that shiny side 640 01:02:17,080 --> 01:02:23,959 up. And remember, if you take anything away from this episode today, communicate early and often. 641 01:02:23,959 --> 01:02:28,639 Mike and Bryan will tell you that's the name of the game, and Lu and Sara will tell you. If you 642 01:02:28,680 --> 01:02:34,799 don't want them barking up your tree, then keep the lines of communication open. And uh, also, if a 643 01:02:34,799 --> 01:02:41,439 hawk drops a snake on your truck today, I'm sorry. I don't know what to do in that situation other 644 01:02:41,439 --> 01:02:46,719 than just you can call me and ruminate and we'll we'll discuss it a little bit, but I you gotta you 645 01:02:46,720 --> 01:02:53,360 gotta get a new truck. We'll see you guys next week. And that's all she blows for today's 646 01:02:53,360 --> 01:02:59,239 episode of Always Pneumatic, never Static. Your number one and probably only Pneumatic Trucking 647 01:02:59,239 --> 01:03:05,199 podcast, brought to you by Bulk Transit. Thanks for rolling with us today. Till next time, stay safe. 648 01:03:05,200 --> 01:03:07,958 Keep those lines clear and keep it pumping.